Regarding AGPL: please no
That would not just kill nearly all commercial usage of mediawiki, but it would also introduce insane requirements to most of small wiki maintainers who would have to start distributing the source code of their customized wikis to public somehow + in case they wouldn't be good php programmers and made some security bugs in software themselves, they would make it much easier for hackers to find them.
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
I don't really understand if apple provides their OS for free, why they can't create a lightweight version that would run in virtual box, for open source developers only... But that's their choice. Let's go back to original topic. GPL v 3 is a good idea :) I am just not sure if you don't need permissions from other developers who contributed the code in order to change the license.
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
TBH as open source developer I don't feel like publishing kernel sources makes it any easier for me to create applications for their platform.
If I want to create an application for android, I can download android studio and run it on Windows, Linux or Mac. The studio itself is open source and programs are easy to package.
If I want to create an application for iPhone, I have to own a Mac, because even if I wanted to buy OS only and install it on non-apple hardware, it wouldn't work and xcode is not available for any other platform than Mac. This is blocker for any open source developer who wants to create non-profit software and isn't willing to put money into something that is never gonna be useful for them, so that they can create software that others can freely use.
This is case of all apple products, even if I wanted to create a program for Windows, which is commercial platform, I can easily do that on linux and compile with mingw compiler that can build .exe files on linux. But in case of apple you can only dream of that.
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+wmf@free.fr wrote:
Le 08/02/2015 15:26, Petr Bena a écrit :
What can I say, I always had a feeling that apple hates open source and likes to block open source devs in all possible ways, this just ensures me in this feeling. One more reason for me to be happy not to have to work with their products.
You have wrong feelings really: http://opensource.apple.com/
Even the kernel (XNU) is published under an open source license:
http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/
FSF's Opinion of the Apple Public Source License (APSL) 2.0 https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.en.html
The AppStore terms of service is not compatibe with GPLv2 since they restrict distribution and use in addition of the GPLv2 restrictions. So it is not surprising that Apple acts as a good citizen by respecting the license and thus preventing people from adding GPLv2 apps. They just make sure the license is respected.
-- Antoine "hashar" Musso
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