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Timwi wrote:
So far I have addressed only the "problem" of people not knowing whether what they are reading is really what the author wrote. People complaining about edits is a whole other matter. To address that problem, we must think about why they are complaining. I am convinced that the large majority of such complaints are solely out of irrational, thoughtless behaviour: people just assume that they "own" their comments by default, and complain about any form of "tinkering" even when it's perfectly legitimate if they thought about it for only a second. Surely you can't agree to let this kind of stupidity take precedence over our wiki philosophy.
I have two major issues with this comment. First, your tone is very confrontational, and is far more aggressive than the situation calls for. Please, let's keep civil here.
Second, I think we can let "this kind of stupidity" take precedence. This is exactly the kind of thing I meant earlier when I warned about over applying models. The Wiki model applies to collaborative documents. No one works with me to create a "better comment," but rather I write a comment so as to communicate what *I* am saying to someone else. In that sense, I *should* own comments, or there should be a large, loud disclaimer on every single page in the Talk namespace that comments may not belong to their professed authors. If you think this is too obvious, remember that irons often come with warning labels these days stating that one shouldn't iron clothes that they are currently wearing.
- --Chris