On Friday, April 5, 2013, phoebe ayers wrote:
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com javascript:;> wrote:
On 5 April 2013 19:07, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.dejavascript:;
wrote:
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM, MZMcBride <z@mzmcbride.comjavascript:;>
wrote:
Sorry, I don't know what this means. I thought Wikidata was already deployed to the English Wikipedia (and possibly other projects as
well).
I've posted an announcement with more details on the technical village pump at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Wikidata_pha...
Let me know if anything is still unclear so I can clarify.
Cheers Lydia
Lydia, could you please point me to the discussion on *English Wikipedia* where the community indicated an interest in deploying this software? Infoboxes and sourcing to another website completely outside the control
of
English Wikipedia is a rather big issue, and I would expect to see a Request for Comment with at least 200-300 participants.
Risker/Anne
In my opinion, as a casual Wikidata editor and not-so-casual Wikipedia editor, I think the Commons analogy continues to hold up pretty well. Commons exists. We can use it, as a project. We don't *have* to (and indeed don't always, on en:wp, where fair use images are accepted). As I understand it, the same is true with Wikidata -- it will be around, if and when it seems appropriate to use.
Yes, it works exactly the same. The deployment means that a wiki has the option to use Wikidata. Not that it has to. The RFC, if any, should be about a policy on how to use Wikidata features provided by this deployment. Do we want to mass transition info boxes? Trial on a certain number? Should we disallow use of properties outside templates?
Of course Commons and Wikidata will both be more useful and more awesome the more projects do use them. But my very non-technical understanding of this deployment is that basically we made the projects able to see that Wikidata exists (correct me if I'm wrong!)
Now as far as I can tell there's a whole lot of work yet to do in order to figure out how exactly one might link to data or produce an infobox and what that might look like -- deployment does not seem to mean ready for prime-time, yet -- and of course the data-building itself is just barely getting started. Best practices for infoboxes does seem like a project-wide RFC to me. But hopefully, when we get to that point, wikidata will be a useful option.
-- phoebe
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