On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Juergen Fenn schneeschmelze@googlemail.com wrote:
You might like to know, though, that on German Wikipedia most discussions about Flow seem to focus on how to turn it off or how to keep it out of the project altogether. Switching to Flow would require a community consensus anyway. So could you please consider a global switch for communities that would rather like to disable these new features completely.
Technically, the Flow extension first has to be installed on a wiki, and then Flow is enabled on particular talk pages or classes of talk pages on that wiki (currently 18 pages on production wikis). After a mis-step on meta-wiki, we seek consensus on both steps. Currently both are PHP changes; the Flow team is figuring out how the second will work in the future. We have no plans to install Flow on German Wikipedia let alone on any particular talk page, so your discussions can focus on other issues.
The tone of your message made me want to cry, quit my job, and punch the wall in frustration :( But I appreciate you being open about your dislike and suspicion of Flow, and can only hope that over time Flow's growing feature set leads users to *want* it enabled on the talk pages they visit.
-- =S Page Core Features (Flow) engineer