2014-06-07 2:44 GMT+02:00 Arcane 21 arcane@live.com:
Going to have concur on this. Flow and VE would be great for attracting new users, but leaving the foundation of the community in the dust in favor of innovation strikes me as a bad idea.
I support the idea of having the ability for the old methods of editing and talk pages to work when and where possible and for the transition to newer ideas to be as gentle as possible on those who might otherwise be alienated by the changes.
Again, I would like to invite you to think twice. I talked about the psychological foundation for participating in such a large project as Wikipedia. It needs tact not to harm an already suffering community when such sweeping changes should be introduced.
No one has ever asked for our opinion whether we want this or not. It is decided over our head, par ordre de mufti. Most of us insist on community processes taking place for introducing new technology on such a big scale, not in order to deactivate it.
Again, this is all about breaking a community. And we cannot discuss this in terms of what is good or bad because you cannot revert the negative impact new technology will have on old editors. This is not only about technology. It's about psychology. And the latter will prevail.
Regards, Jürgen.