On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Trevor Parscal tparscal@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I have avoided getting involved so I could stay focused on fixing bugs and making improvements to VisualEditor.
This thread has served it's purpose; to surface various arguments about whether the preference to disable VisualEditor should be hidden or not.
I would argue that avoiding this kind of painful back and forth in the future is actually more important than the issue of the hidden preference. I assume that nobody wants to see this again. Well, maybe WR. But nobody who cares for the projects, engineering nor others at the foundation, nor anyone in the community. Which is sort of why I waited on commenting on the thread until the worst was over, and things had quieted down a little, so we could have this discussion without all the emotion that was around earlier. I didn't formulate my post in a form of what can we do in the future to avoid this by accident.
The conclusion has been reached. The preference is now available to opt out while VisualEditor is in beta. The patch as been deployed, and we all need to get back to work.
I would like to politely ask us to put this thread to rest so we can all get back to our respective tasks at hand.
Thank you all for your participation, I am glad we were able to resolve this.
- Trevor
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerromeo@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:23 PM, James Forrester jforrester@wikimedia.orgwrote:
That's just flatly wrong. Removing the preference was always the
intention
and had been mentioned several times.
See here it is again. Was is absolutely necessary to say I was "flatly wrong"? This thread began with mentions of the original patchset in which the $wgHiddenPrefs was enabled *because of the messages error* so I don't see how it was such a terrible conclusion to come to.
I made the call about a year ago, and mentioned it in several of the
dozens of mailing list and on-wiki posts made about the development of VisualEditor since then. Clearly my communication about it wasn't read,
or
wasn't understood, by the people who subsequently complained, but I wouldn't describe it as being "done silently".
Could you maybe link to where you emailed wikitech about this, because I just searched my Gmail and found no such email.
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