Agreed. This discussion has degenerated, on Timwi's side at least, to ad hominem attacks and straw man arguments. Why do you persist in saying that opinions on talk pages have the same ownership/POV claims as articles in mainspace?
Firstly, I am not aware of any ad hominem attacks from me. Since the definition of ad hominem attack is vague, though, it is easily possible that people mistake my argumentation for such.
As for strawman arguments, I know they are notoriously difficult to spot, so I cannot claim I haven't made any. On the other hand, no-one has pointed out any to me.
As for the second part, who is the "you" you are referring to? If it's me, the answer is: I don't, and I never did. I feel misunderstood by about half of the participants in this discussion.
Timwi