Thank you for reply,
the current logs are stored at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/logs/ for instance the dev channel is logged (some of the channels are not being logged althought the folder exist), you can just jump for instance to #mediawiki-move and type anything there (it's empty channel), you would see if it's ok, if not let me know. I want to create some php pages for searching the logs and place them to svn as well.
Concerning "wariness": You didn't get my point, this new bot is supposed to be managed by community, not a single person, so there should be any problem with "trustworth" it doesn't matter if you trust me or not, the source code is in svn, so that you can see what is there, you can change it or fix it, the binary is installed on instance on labs which would be probably accessible in the future to anyone who would apply for access and has svn account, so that anyone else who would like to operate the bot could do that, and easily help with the job of any other operator who wouldn't have a time for that. However as I already noted, if there is someone who actively maintain the current bot, I see absolutely no reason to convince you to switch to this one.
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:57 AM, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
It reads mostly like a wariness thing to me. Someone shows up, contributes some code, and promises stability. If they're known in the community and have an established reputation, great. If not, there's wariness. If someone quickly gets bored with the project, you possibly end up with a worse situation.
I'm not sure what kind of stability is expected from the labs instances/hosts. It'd be nice to get a firmer answer on that before switching hosts. The Toolserver is largely stable, so any jump to a different host should be able to approximately match (or beat!) it.
I've considered rewriting mwbot before (in Python). Any replacement needs to maintain the channel logs. That's one of the primary reasons I didn't feel like doing a rewrite. Preferably in roughly the same format (file naming, file type, etc.). And those logs will need to be hosted and accessible (and preferably searchable). They're currently on the Toolserver and largely consolidated at this point, I think. There's a hackish tool on top that can run grep on the logs from a web UI.
There is some sort of issue with encoding in the current logs, I think. So if you rewrite that functionality, there might be an improvement if you can output everything sanely. :-)
MZMcBride
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