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Moin,
On Friday 14 January 2005 01:03, Jakob Voss wrote:
Tels wrote:
On Thursday 13 January 2005 19:43, Jakob Voss wrote:
My main interest in this area lies in _easily_ documentating network plans, flow charts, schematics and other things in that area. IMHO having such a feature in a wiki would be very usefull.
Then please call it <easygraph> or something like this. I'd better like a plugin for all kind of graphs and GraphViz is obviously the best one.
I have to disagree.
First, I didn't know that there is a graphviz plugin (or anyother extension, I overlooked extension), and if there is a name-clash, I will rename my plugin.
Ok, if there is also <graphviz> I don't mind. Thanks for your work anyway.
Second:
Even knowing the graphviz plugin, I would redo the work I did for several reasons:
- output: I don't like these types of graph-images. Beside that I
like ASCII/HTML output over PNG etc, IMHO the output of graphviz looks ugly.
Well, uglyness is a very subjective argument that may fit to both.
- I find the graphviz language too complicated in the same sense that
HTML is too complicated over the normal wiki language. Compare the example from http://www.wickle.com/wikis/index.php/Graphviz_extension with one of my more complicated examples, I think my formatting is visual more distinct. (Of course, both languages should be "equivalent", e.g. it should be possible to write a converter - which means the language the graph is written in will be irrelevant)
If you draw complicated graphs, graphviz is complicated but not more compicated than any other language, including yours. But there is a limit in graphviz: you cannot embed Wikilinks! So if your plugin produces clickable images like Erik's Timeline that would be really useful.
Cool idea :o) I am currently on a vacation, but I will implement it soon to see how that looks :)
Interestingly enough, since my plugins output is some sort of text, you can also copy & past the output, and in quite a lot of cases and up with something resembling the original input. Which means, that also searhc engines will be able to index it etc. I think any graphical output could be "spiced" up with mouse-over maps, annotations and/or comments, if I ever go this route.
Best wishes,
Tels
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