Thomas R. Koll wrote:
Toby Bartels wrote:
Thomas R. Koll wrote:
I'd like to ask for a broader spectrum of user rights. Not only sysop but also
- SQL-User
- delete articles
- edit protected articles
- ban user
We have a request on de: from a experienced user who didn't like the sysop-job but now, after being de-sysoped, misses the SQL functions very much.
What is "the sysop-job"?
I'm a sysop on [[en:]], and I don't have to do anything except to behave well (to not abuse the sysop powers). Do sysops on [[de:]] have to do chores?
Some sysops on [[en:]] only use certain powers and never others; for example, I never use SQL functions since I don't know SQL.
SQL is very useful, especially if search is off or you're searching for spelling-mistakes or HTML-tables. But SQL-Queries can cause heavy load for the server, so it would also be good to seperate sysop and sql-rights and make them depending of the user's knowledge.
That is a fair point, although it doesn't mean that we need to separate things in the MediaWiki code. Since I don't know SQL enough to use it, I don't run any SQL queries; there's no need to take SQL rights away. If another sysop only wants to run SQL queries, but not get involved in deletions or IP blocks, then that's OK too.
This is a matter of trying to keep the administration simple; I'm not saying that I oppose your idea completely. But in the case of the experienced user on [[de:]], I would suggest that this user be given back ''all'' sysop rights, but only ''use'' SQL. Perhaps this is a problem for some reason -- maybe other Wikipedians complained about this user as a sysop?
(By the way, you didn't answer my questions. That's OK, as long as you know that you didn't answer them! ^_^)
-- Toby