On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Isarra Yos zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
... Um... LQT has exactly that model. Yes, you can keep going, but you can keep going in wikitext, too, even off the side of the page (which is exactly what uncyclopedians do sometimes precisely because they want to go off the side of the page because they think it's funny, because let's face it, it is funny), but normally you just start a new conversation/thread/topic/whatever you want to call it if it goes too far.
There's no way to solve the threading problem for long complex conversations directly because while you need that threading in order to discern who is responding to whom, or even what is going on in general, there is always only so much space on the screen. We accept this, we outdent, or we refocus with a new section after it gets too long/we feel like putting our usernames in the ToC, or we even wind up just having everyone involved creating their own thread from the start (because really, we all want our usernames in the ToC), but the problem of how to handle it has been solved in practice.
LQT works well for the part of showing who is replying to who. As for the cases where one would need to use {{outdent}} so that each message has more horizontal space, I think it is possible for LQT/Flow to have a system similar to this: when someone is reading a talkpage where there is too many indentation, the user should be allowed to click in a given message so that messages above it get collapsed, and its left margin is reduced near to zero, so that all replies (to replies (to replies...)) of that message now have more space. If reading this "thread" one gets too much indentation again, just click in another message, to focus on it, reset the margin again, and hide the previous comments.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:21 AM, Daniel Friesen daniel@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote:
Perhaps the Flow interface needs high level support for something like that. Something like how Discourse lets you fork a message into a new topic and displays an interface bit that links to the new topic.
LQT already allows that. One just need to click on "More" > "Drag to new location" and move it to a top level position. This will open a popup with this message: ---- To complete the following actions, please fill in a reason and click "Confirm". * Adjust post's position on the page * Move post to its own thread Reason: [__________________________________________________] Subject for new thread (mandatory): [___________________________] [Confirm] ---- I've used this many times on Portuguese Wikibooks and it works well for discussing new off-topic ideas which come up in the middle of other discussions.
Best regards, Helder