This discussion is getting side tracked.
The real complaint here is that
{{#expr:(0.00007 * 1000 * 1000) mod 1000}} is giving 69 when it should give 70.
This is NOT a formatting issue, but rather it is bug in the #expr parser function, presumably caused by some kind of round-off error.
-Robert Rohde
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Greg L greg_l_at_wikipedia@comcast.net wrote:
Yes, {val} is a tool for making attractive and convenient scientific notation. The look of {{tl|val}} was discussed at length on both WT:MOSNUM and WT:MOS and achieved broad support for how it works and renders numbers. It delimits numbers with narrow spaces that aren't really "spaces"; they use CSS <span> tags to move characters. Thus, the significands can be copied and pasted into Excel where they will be treated as real numbers without the need to first hand-delete spaces.
The problem with it {val} is outlined here at…
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&oldid=26...
Developer_support_for_parser_function
In a nutshell, about 5 to 10% of the time, {val} gives rounding errors. For instance, the expression {{val|0.55007|e=6}} will return a significand of 0.550069.
This is the product of the buggy math-based parser functions it must use. To date, notwithstanding that Jimbo is solidly behind this, and that Erik supports the production of the required parser function, no volunteer developer has stepped up to the plate with a parser function that can character-counting parser function.
Greg
On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Platonides wrote:
Greg L wrote:
All,
Can anyone figure out how to fix {{tl|val}} so an expression like
{{val|0.55007|e=6}}
…works properly?
Greg L
You can't figure out what it should do just from the description. I imagine you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Val "Set of templates that can be used to easily present values in scientific notation, including uncertainty" Another ugly template...
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