On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Tim Weyer (SVG) wikitech-l@svg.name wrote:
The 'deleterevision' permission is an instrumental supply if you want to delete a revision of a page due to adding libelous information. But it also allows suppressing log entries and some sysadmins don't want to grant their administrators this possibility.
(1) It's not possible to suppress log entries ; it's possible to mask the IP address / username or the edit summary. The entries with the date and the fact data has been masqueraded are still there.
(2) A sample about technical versus social rules enforcement. On the French Wikipedia, we use these social rules: - Admins use deleterevision for copyvio (yes, on fr.wikipedia, we always had a very strong attitude against copyright and never reverted it, we deleted articles and restore good versions in the past before deleterevision) - Oversights, a group especially created for this use, and so especially trusted, could mask diffamation/libelous /confidential personal information revisions. - But technically, an admin could use its deleterevision right to mask a libellous entry.
'deleterevision' as "delete a revision" is no additional possibility. Revisions can also be deleted with 'delete' and 'undelete' permission (but it's more difficult than 'deleterevision' process).
My suggestion is splitting 'deleterevision' permission into:
deleterevision: (un)deleting revisions only suppresslogentry: (un)hiding log entries only
Fine rights are always a good idea, up to the point extra rights means unmanageable complexity for the people having to configure a MediaWiki setup.
By the way, is it really useful to be able to text content but not the IP/username or the edit comment now I clarified a little bit how the right work?
Cheers, Tim
-- Tim Weyer MediaWiki user "SVG" Git/SVN committer "cervidae"