On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 April 2013 12:51, Brad Jorsch bjorsch@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think it is particularly obvious outside of our project the way that Wikidata is being "weaponized" as the reason for attempting to force changes in local consensus about infoboxes (their existence and content) with respect to specific article categories or even individual articles.
Personally, I don't consider that people making spurious arguments based on the existence of wikidata is a problem with the planned wikidata phase 2 deployment.
Why do you think those arguments are spurious?
Because they are.
"We need to change local consensus about infoboxes because of Wikidata!" is the same as "We need to change local consensus about reliable sources because of Wikidata!" or "We need to change local consensus about infoboxes because of Scribunto!", or even "We need to change local consensus about infoboxes because of IE10!". No, we don't. It's just an excuse to argue it over again because some people don't like the current local consensus.
Those articles belong a lot more to the editors of each of the Wikipedias than they do to Wikidata, or Wikimedia, that's for certain.
Since you seem to have missed it the first time, I'll repeat myself:
Wikidata itself doesn't create a single infobox or add an infobox to any article, and there is no requirement for any infobox (or any instance of any particular infobox) to actually use the data from wikidata.
that there remains this cowboy attitude toward applying poorly developed software onto huge sites knowing full well that the software create significant community disruption.
Changing the colors of the diffs to be more friendly to color-blind editors caused significant community disruption, too. Some parts of the community will feel disrupted about basically anything.
Given the level of bad faith you're assuming here, Risker, and the lack of reasoned arguments, I think I'll now bow out of this subthread. Have a nice day.