Wikitech-l April 2016

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Kunal (User:Legoktm) moving to Parsing Team
by Subramanya Sastry 08 Apr '16

08 Apr '16

Hi everyone, We would like to let you know that Kunal (User:Legoktm for those who don’t already know) is moving inside the Editing Department from the Collaboration Team to the Parsing Team. The Collaboration team is grateful for Kunal’s great work over the past year, especially on the backend for cross-wiki notifications. Prior to that, Kunal spent two years working on SUL finalization, without which a feature like cross-wiki notifications would not have been possible. The Parsing team is very happy to have Kunal join them. Kunal is really interested to work on implementing shadow namespaces [2] which enables wikis to specify fallback wikis for pages that don’t resolve on the local wiki. Among other things, this could enable creation of global repositories for templates, for example, which interests us greatly. There is this little detail of Kunal being a nominee for affiliate-selected board seats [3] and what happens if he gets elected [4]. We will cross that bridge when we get there. :-) Trevor, Subbu, Roan. [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Shadow_namespaces [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominat… [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Questio…

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MathML is dead, long live MathML
by Daniel Kinzler 08 Apr '16

08 Apr '16

Am 07.04.2016 um 23:01 schrieb Paul Topping: > I have no problem with that but are some of these lists members-only? I was > told when I replied that my message would be reviewed by the moderator as I > wasn't a member. Perhaps that was the W3C list. Oh... both the Wikimedia lists are members only, I'm afraid. The W3C list requires a 1-click agreement to their terms. That's easier, but less likely to involve Wikimedia people.

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Dumps.wm.o access will be https only
by Ariel Glenn WMF 08 Apr '16

08 Apr '16

We plan to make this change on April 4 (this coming Monday), redirecting plain http access to https. A reminder that our dumps can also be found on our mirror sites, for those who may have restricted https access. Ariel Glenn

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Wikipedia in Pig Latin
by Ryan Kaldari 08 Apr '16

08 Apr '16

Due to popular demand, I've implemented a patch to dynamically convert all Wikipedia content into Pig Latin. Give it a try and let me know what you think: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280927/ Note that this implementation is language agnostic, but it works best with Latin scripts. For those of you looking for support for Pig Latin as a language variant, try Liangent's patch instead: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72053/ Cheers, Kaldari

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Feelings
by Legoktm 08 Apr '16

08 Apr '16

Hi, It's well known that Wikipedia is facing threats from other social networks and losing editors. While many of us spend time trying to make Wikipedia different, we need to be cognizant that what other social networks are doing is working. And if we can't beat them, we need to join them. I've written a patch[1] that introduces a new feature to the Thanks extension called "feelings". When hovering over a "thank" link, five different emoji icons will pop up[2], representing five different feelings: happy, love, surprise, anger, and fear. Editors can pick one of those options instead of just a plain thanks, to indicate how they really feel, which the recipient will see[3]. Of course, some might consider this feature to be controversial (I suspect they would respond to my email with "anger" or "fear"), so I've added a feature flag for it. Setting $wgDontFixEditorRetentionProblem = true; will disable it for your wiki. Please give the patch a try, I've only tested it in MonoBook so far, it might need some extra CSS in Vector. [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/280961 [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F3810964 [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F3810963 -- Legoktm

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MathML is dead, long live MathML
by Daniel Kinzler 08 Apr '16

08 Apr '16

Am 07.04.2016 um 20:00 schrieb Moritz Schubotz: > Hi Daniel, > > Ok. Let's discuss! Great! But let's keep the discussion in one place. I made a mess by cross-posting this to two lists, now it's three, it seems. Can we agree on <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> as the venue of discussion? At least for the discussion of MathML in the context of Wikimedia, that would be the best place, I think. -- daniel

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MathML is dead, long live MathML
by Daniel Kinzler 08 Apr '16

08 Apr '16

Peter Krautzberger, maintainer of MathJax, apparently thinks that MathML has failed as a web standard (even though it succeeded as an XML standard), and should be removed from HTML5. Here's the link: https://www.peterkrautzberger.org/0186/ It's quite a rant. Here's a quick TL;DR: > It doesn’t matter whether or not MathML is a good XML language. Personally, I > think it’s quite alright. It’s also clearly a success in the XML publishing > world, serving an important role in standards such as JATS and BITS. > > The problem is: MathML has failed on the web. > Not a single browser vendor has stated an intent to work on the code, not a > single browser developer has been seen on the MathWG. After 18 years, not a > single browser vendor is willing to dedicate even a small percentage of a > developer to MathML. > Math layout can and should be done in CSS and SVG. Let’s improve them > incrementally to make it simpler. > > It’s possible to generate HTML+CSS or SVG that renders any MathML content – > on the server, mind you, no client-side JS required (but of course possible). > Since layout is practically solved (or at least achievable), we really need > to solve the semantics. Presentation MathML is not sufficient, Content MathML > is just not relevant. > > We need to look where the web handles semantics today – that’s ARIA and HTML > but also microdata, rdfa etc. I think both, the rendering as well as the semantics, are well worth thinking about. Perhaps Wikimedia should reach out to Peter Krautzberger, and discuss some ideas of how math (and physics, and chemistry) content should be handled by Wikipedia, Wikidata, and friends. This seems like a cross roads, and we should have a hand in where things are going from here. -- daniel (not a MathML expert all all)

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Scrum of Scrums: 2016-04-06
by Greg Grossmeier 07 Apr '16

07 Apr '16

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2016-04-06 = 2016-04-06 = == Product == === Editing === ==== Collaboration ==== * '''Blocking''': ** External store work * '''Blocked''': * '''Updates''': ** Working on support for Flow notifications being properly hidden on moderation ** Work on the Echo special page *** Looking into removing one or two of the formats output by the Echo API; see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130661 for details ** Working on improving Flow user experience when page is protected or otherwise not editable ** Flow dumps now have XSD schema on MediaWiki.org. Waiting on ops for the actual dumps. Let us know if there's anything we can do. ==== Language ==== * '''Blocking''': * '''Blocked''': * '''Updates''': ** Working on ULS+Compact Language Links+Translate this sprint. ** To RelEng: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53731#2160828 - refresh-translatable-pages needs to be run on all wikis using Translate - any possible blocker or go ahead for this? ==== Parsing ==== * Updates ** Kunal joined the parsing team (see wmfall, wikitech-l announcement) ** As of yesterday, Parsoid will now generate localized image options (e.g thumb, left). This is a followup based on changes to core that reordered aliases for wikis so that Parsoid can pick a consistent choice and generate the wiki's preferred alias. The full change will take effect once the m/w train finishes deploy tomorrow ** Additional work ongoing to replace Tidy with a HTML5 parser -- some essential Tidy functionality is now implemented as DOM passes. We'll likely not replicate all of Tidy functionality and deliberately break some corner case functionality that probably only matters for parser test runs. Announcement on wikitech-l in the coming weeks. ** Work ongoing to get a m/w install initialized with 60K+ titles from 41 wikis (wikipedia, wikisource, wiktionary, wikivoyage) for visual diff testing -- this is proving to be somewhat of a painful process since dump import is slow and running into troubles with mediawiki vagrant (not sure if it is the import process or if it is mediawiki-vagrant -- getting help from Kunal and Bryan) === Reading === ==== Reading Infrastructure ==== * AuthManager is getting closer! *** SECURITY: We should be ready for finishing up the security reviews on the AuthManager core bits. **** Main: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/195297/ **** API: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/265201/ **** UI: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/240052/ * Wikibase bug https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131176 seems to be the * only blocker remaining for turning on load.php session access errors. ==== iOS ==== * '''Blocking''': ** none * '''Blocked''': ** none * '''Updates''': ** 5.0.2 Deployed this week to fix universal links issues cause by Apple's iOS 9.3 update ** 5.0.3 in progress, likely deploying in 2-3 weeks ** SWAT deployment scheduled this week to support App to Browser Handoff and sharing of credentials between Safari and the iOS app (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128795) ** Working with Apple to fix universal links not working on lower traffic domains (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131250) ==== Android ==== * '''Blocking''': ** none * '''Blocked''': ** none * '''Updates''': ** Working to get Reading Lists wrapped up ** Next up: The Feed ==== Web ==== * Near to deploying updated "Read in other language" button icon to top * of mobile web * New mobile web language overlay running at 100% * Request: initial security assessment of HoverCards * Image lazy loading in beta * Reference lazy loading WIP ==== Mobile Content Service (MCS) ==== * Rolled out to 50% of Android prod app installs * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126934 * Fixed page title issue when parsing redirects in Parsoid payload * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131406 * Had some stale content on some main pages that are not in main * namespace https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123938 === Community Tech === * No blockers * Finished work on pageviews tool, is now linked from several projects: * http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/ * Continuing work on deadlink fixing, will soon be detecting it's own * dead links rather than relying on templates * Continuing work on PageAssessments extension ** https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageAssessments * Getting security review for Gadgets 2.0 from Darian Anthony Patrick == Discovery == * '''Blocking''': ** Not that we are aware of * '''Blocked''': ** Security review: SVG sanitizer for graphs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125382 * '''Updates''': ** Weekly status updates: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discovery/Status_updates ** We began working on structured on-wiki storage (tabular, json, geojson, ...) == Fundraising Tech == * No blocking / blockers * running 1 hr full traffic test in Argentina, Colombia, Chile, and * Uruguay ** (still working out Mexico bug) * planning integration with new PayPal API * more DonationInterface refactoring * more work towards reversible CiviCRM merges * email unsubscribe fixes * Netherlands bank transfer fixes * Education Program needs rails dev, has money for contractor. Might be * able to use WikiEducation Foundation, but if you have suggestions * please contact Tighe Flanagan == Technology == === Research === * '''Blocking''': none * '''Blocked''': ** MediaWiki core patches *** https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/278841/ -- Re-introduce "Templatize Special:Contributions lines" *** https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/279925/ -- Add hook to modify classes of inner lines in enhanced changes list ** Puppet patches *** https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/281940/ -- wikilabels: healthier uwsgi *** https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/281228/ -- ores: do git clone in staging *** https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/281161/ -- Use die-on-term on ores uwsgi *** https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280403/ -- ores: Scap3 deployment configurations * '''Updates''': ** ORES deployed to beta labs via scap3: https://ores-beta.wmflabs.org/ ** Substantial updates to ORES service announced: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Objective_Revision_Evaluation_Service#… *** Scoring UI, API versioning and v2, Swagger documentation, Feature reporting and injection ** ORES breaking change coming April 7th (tomorrow): *** Patches submitted to tools that use ORES (huggle*, ra-un, ScoredRevisions, crosswatch, RTRC) === Security === * Reviews: Gadgets in progress; next week: Newsletter, DOMPurify, * Hovercards, UploadLinks, DoubleWiki * Security release soon (maybe next week) * Ops: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131195 ? === Release Engineering === * Blocking: security release soonish * Blocked: ** Beta Cluster SSL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97593 ** Phab/Jenkins firewall things: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131375 ** Jessie HHVM: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125821 * Updates: ** Scap migration timeline announcement (End of Quarter) === Technical Operations === * '''Blocking''': none * '''Blocked''': none * '''Updates''': ** On track for CODFW switchover on Tue April 19th https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Codfw_cluster ** some work on scap3 with releng -- | Greg Grossmeier GPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E | | identi.ca: @greg A18D 1138 8E47 FAC8 1C7D |

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Kunal (User:Legoktm) moving to Parsing Team
by Amgine 06 Apr '16

06 Apr '16

No. Your citations are normal, and expected. The use of [0] is a dev affectation to show you're 'in the club', that is, to discriminate, but violates the principal of least surprise. On 2016-04-06 05:00, wikitech-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > I suppose you've figured out that I don't know how to write citations. > Subtract -1 from N for all [N] in the body. :-) -S.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Kunal (User:Legoktm) moving to Parsing Team
by Amgine 06 Apr '16

06 Apr '16

woops. Engage brain first... Thanks Anomie. Apologies everyone else. On 2016-04-06 05:00, wikitech-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > Re: Kunal (User:Legoktm) moving to Parsing Team

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