Wikitech-l February 2015

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New feature: tool edit
by Petr Bena 06 Mar '15

06 Mar '15

Hi, I think I proposed this once but I forgot the outcome. I would like to implement a new feature called "tool edit" it would be pretty much the same as "bot edit" but with following differences: -- Every registered user would be able to flag edit as tool edit (bot needs special user group) -- The flag wouldn't be intended for use by robots, but regular users who used some automated tool in order to make the edit -- Users could optionally mark any edit as tool edit through API only The rationale is pretty clear: there is a number of tools, like AWB and many others that produce incredible amounts of edits every day. They are spamming recent changes page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges can't be filtered out and most of regular users are not interested in them. This would make it possible to filter them out and it would also make it easier to figure out how many "real edits" some user has made, compared to automated edits made by tools. Is it worth implementing? I think yes, but not so sure. Thanks

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Moses decoder
by Bahodir Mansurov 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

Hello, I’ve been learning how to use Moses decoder [1] for creating machine translation models for the Uzbek language and was wondering if anyone else has any experience with. After talking to Amir, we decided to set Moses up in a Labs instance. Is anyone else interested in this? How was your experience with the decoder? Thanks, Baha [1] https://github.com/moses-smt/mosesdecoder

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need review and co-mentor volunteers for GSoC Accuracy review proposal
by James Salsman 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

I invite review of this preliminary proposal for a Google Summer of Code project: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accuracy_review If you would like to co-mentor this project, please sign up. I've been a GSoC mentor every year since 2010, and successfully mentored two students in 2012 resulting in work which has become academically relevant, including in languages which I can not read, i.e., http://talknicer.com/turkish-tablet.pdf .) I am most interested in co-mentors at the WMF or Wiki Education Foundation involved with engineering, design, or education. Synopsis: Create a Pywikibot to find articles in given categories, category trees, and lists. For each such article, add in-line templates to indicate the location of passages with (1) facts and statistics which are likely to have become out of date and have not been updated in a given number of years, and (2) phrases which are likely unclear. Use a customizable set of keywords and the DELPH-IN LOGIN parser [http://erg.delph-in.net/logon] to find such passages for review. Prepare a table of each word in article dumps indicating its age. Convert flagged passages to GIFT questions [http://microformats.org/wiki/gift] for review and present them to one or more subscribed reviewers. Update the source template with the reviewer(s)' answers to the GIFT question, but keep the original text as part of the template. When reviewers disagree, update the template to reflect that fact, and present the question to a third reviewer to break the tie. Possible stretch goals for Global Learning Xprize Meta-Team systems [http://www.wiki.xprize.org/Meta-team#Goals] integration TBD. Best regards, James Salsman

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Tech Talk: Hack - An Evolution of PHP: March 4th
by Rachel Farrand 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

Please join us for the following tech talk: *Tech Talk**:* Hack: An Evolution of PHP *Presenter:* Josh Watzman from Facebook *Date:* March 4th *Time:* 1800 UTC <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Hack%3A+An+Evoluti…> Link to live YouTube stream <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqXqdqUhxy8> *IRC channel for questions/discussion:* #wikimedia-office Google+ page <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/103470172168784626509/events/ckh4leo7qam35mc5…>, another place for questions *Talk description: *Although PHP has several features that allow engineers to be extremely productive in it, it also has several rough edges and pitfalls that cause problems (and often give the language a bad name). This talk will introduce Hack, Facebook's dialect of PHP. Hack keeps most of the PHP language -- all of the parts that make engineers so productive -- but sands down several of the more problematic sharp edges. It also introduces several new features, such as a simple yet extremely powerful syntax for asynchronous IO, to make the language even more effective for existing PHP programmers and newcomers alike.

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Transfering domain cswp.cz to WMF
by Petr Bena 03 Mar '15

03 Mar '15

Hi, Long time ago I purchased domain cswp.cz in order to use it in same way as enwp.org for czech wikipedia (cswp.org was taken by something). I think that it would be probably better if it was owned and maintained by WMF rather than me, but I don't really know where to ask, neither if ops are actually interested in maintaining it, the script which redirects the page is pretty simple: <?php $uri = $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; $target = "http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki"; header ("Location: $target"."$uri"); exit(); I can't really provide any data on usage of this domain, because I never collected any, but if there isn't any long-term plan for global wiki shorteners I think this domain could be used. Thank you

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Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-01
by communitymetrics＠wikimedia.org 03 Mar '15

03 Mar '15

Hi Community Metrics team, this is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail. Number of accounts created in (2015-01): 305 Number of active users (any activity) in (2015-01): 669 Number of task authors in (2015-01): 401 Number of users who have closed tasks in (2015-01): 199 Number of tasks created in (2015-01): 2584 Number of tasks closed in (2015-01): 1775 Number of tasks in the shell project closed as resolved,fixed in (2015-01): 22 Number of open and stalled tasks in total: 19008 Median age in days of open tasks by priority: Unbreak now: 50 Needs Triage: 132 High: 133 Normal: 417 Low: 691 Needs Volunteer: 531 TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as described in T1003. Yours sincerely, Fab Rick Aytor (via community_metrics.sh on iridium at Sun Feb 1 00:00:05 UTC 2015)

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Line break in php
by Thomas Mulhall 01 Mar '15

01 Mar '15

Hi how can I do line breaks in php because I am trying to do line breaks for global in github.com/paladox/Metrolook/blob/test/MetrolookTemplate.php

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Tech Talk: What's New with MediaWiki-Vagrant?: Simple Use Cases and Beyond: November 25
by Rachel Farrand 01 Mar '15

01 Mar '15

Please join us for the following tech talk: *Tech Talk**:* What's New with MediaWiki-Vagrant?: Simple Use Cases and Beyond *Presenter:* Bryan Davis & Dan Duvall *Date:* November 25th *Time:* 1830 UTC <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=What%27s+New+with+…> Link to live YouTube stream <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I66xR-fq2O8> *IRC channel for questions/discussion:* #wikimedia-office Google+ page <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I66xR-fq2O8>, another place for questions *Talk description:*We'll start off by giving a brief refresher on how MW-Vagrant works and how it differs from stock Vagrant. Next, we'll showcase some of the newest and most useful features of MWV such as multi-wiki support, SSH/HTTP sharing, Labs integration, advanced customization using Hiera and local roles. Finally, we'd like to show how MWV can be useful in test-driven development by demonstrating how to run unit and browser tests. The last 15 minutes will be reserved for Q/A. == Outline (WIP) == * (10 minutes) What is Vagrant, MediaWiki-Vagrant, Puppet (dan + bryan) * (15 minutes) Local customizations (bryan) * (15 minutes) Running unit tests and browser tests under MW-V (dan) * (5 minutes) Vagrant sharing (it's awesomesauce!!!) (bryan) * (15 minutes) Q & A

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] Autopromote problems
by Alex Monk 28 Feb '15

28 Feb '15

(CCing wikitech-l) On 28 February 2015 at 01:04, John Horne <john.horne(a)plymouth.ac.uk> wrote: > > $wgAutopromote['sysop'] = array(APCOND_ISIP, '141.163.4.11'); > Wait, what? MediaWiki supports that?! You should not do that. > However, when I log in and look at the special user rights management > page for my own userid, I see that I am in no specific group except for > the implied group of 'autoconfirmed users' and Administrators. There are > checkboxes for the Administrators, Bureaucrats and 'editor' groups, but > none of them are ticked. If I tick a checkbox, and then click save, it > says the setting has been saved but unchecks the checkbox again. > It sounds like UserRights can't reasonably handle groups that are both implied (e.g. by autopromotion) and actually grant-able to specific users (where the target user already has implied access?). I'm not entirely surprised - I'm not sure we officially support that configuration? > Secondly, and more worryingly, is that if I log in using the > 141.163.4.11 IP address, and look at the special user rights page, it > shows everyone as being in the 'Administrators' (sysop) group! If I take > out the autopromote from the LocalSettings file, then no-one (other than > the original account created during installation) is shown as being in > the Administrators group. Very strange. > Okay, matching APCOND_ISIP (and APCOND_IPINRANGE) is based on checking $user->getRequest()->getIP(). But take a look at what User::getRequest does: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/MW/browse/master/includes/User.… So it'll determine every user's eligibility for autopromotion... Using the current requester's IP. Depending on who requests a page (or indeed, from which IP), the wiki will have different admins. That's ridiculous. There probably can't be much more useful behaviour from User::getRequest - a user doesn't have an assigned IP address, and could have made different sorts of actions from different IPs (log in, edit, etc.) - you wouldn't want to autopromote any user account that's ever logged in from that Plymouth University IP, for example. All we can do is look at the current requester's IP. I wonder why we're not just throwing an exception when code tries to call User::getRequest for a User other than the one making the request... Maybe we just shouldn't even have a User::getRequest function at all. Alex.

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[RfC] AuthManager
by Legoktm 27 Feb '15

27 Feb '15

Hi! Anomie, bd808, CSteipp, and myself have been working on updating Tyler's previous AuthStack RfC: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/AuthManager>. Our goal is to build an authentication system that is flexible enough to support the variety of usecases that MW currently supports and those it should support in the future, without requiring tons of hooks or ugly hacks. Please leave comments and feedback on the talk page :) Thanks! -- Legoktm

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