Wikitech-l October 2009

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sharing an article on Facebook
by Amir E. Aharoni 18 Oct '09

18 Oct '09

Hello, Some of you may be familiar with sharing links on Facebook. If i try to share on Facebook an article from Wikipedia in Hebrew or in Arabic, the Facebook interface offers to add a thumbnail not from the article, but from the main page of that Wikipedia. The summary text describing the link is also taken from the main page and not from the article. It may have something to do with the non-ASCII title of the article: for example, the Hebrew article about Haifa [1] has this problem, but the Hebrew article about Extreme Programming,[2] with an English title, is OK. However, it does not happen with non-ASCII titles on en.wp; for example "Ça m'énerve" is OK. Whose should fix it: Facebook or Wikipedia? Are there any differences in definitions in this regard between en, ar and he? Thanks in advance. [1] http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%94 [2] http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_Programming [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%87a_m%27%C3%A9nerve -- אמיר אלישע אהרוני Amir Elisha Aharoni http://aharoni.wordpress.com "We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace." - T. Moore

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revision comment too long in pages-articles.xml
by Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt 18 Oct '09

18 Oct '09

Hi, I tried using mwdumper (latest SVN revision 57818) to import jawiki-20090927-pages-articles.xml [1] into MySQL, but I got an error: Data too long for column 'rev_comment' The problem is that the xml file contains a revision comment that is 257 bytes long, but the column accepts at most 255 bytes. First I was stumped as to how this could happen, but then I found that on the Wikipedia page, the comment ends with the byte 'e3', while in the xml file it ends with 'ef bf bd'. See [2] for details. I think the cause is something like this: - Comments are truncated to 255 bytes when they are stored. - In this case, this means that a three-byte UTF-8 sequence is cut off after its first byte (hex value e3), so the comment ends with an invalid one-byte UTF-8 sequence. - The dump process has to generate valid UTF-8 (otherwise, most XML parsers wouldn't accept the file), so it replaces the invalid one-byte UTF-8 sequence by the 'replacement character' U+FFFD, which has the three-byte UTF-8 sequence 'ef bf bd'. See [3]. - In this case, the comment grows from 255 bytes to 257 bytes. How to fix this? I think MediaWiki should make sure that a comment contains only valid UTF-8 sequences, even when it is truncated. This may mean that it has to be truncated to less than 255 bytes. Alternatively, the dump process could drop invalid UTF-8 sequences instead of replacing them. Yet another fix: mwdumper should make sure that a comment is at most 255 bytes long and truncate it if necessary. More details can be found at [2]. Bye, Christopher [1] http://download.wikimedia.org/jawiki/20090927/jawiki-20090927-pages-article… [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chrisahn/CommentTooLong [3] http://www.utf8-chartable.de/unicode-utf8-table.pl?start=65520

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unsubscribe
by nixs0＠gmx.net 17 Oct '09

17 Oct '09

unsubscribe please thank you! 2009/10/17 Q <overlordq(a)gmail.com> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Max Semenik wrote: > >> On 10/15/09 7:52 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > >>> Max Semenik (maxsem) to work on SQLite support. > >>> > >>> -- Tim Starling > >> Thanks for getting the updates going Tim! > > > > Sorry for appearing so late in this discussion, I unsubscribed myself > > from this list after withdrawing my request and noticed Tim's email > > only this morning. > > > > Now to the point. > > > > I'm terribly sorry for this unbelievable display of dickheadery from > > me. Yes, I was pissed off because due to the long waiting period I lost > > the passion to participate in development, and regaining it back is > > still to happen, despite Tim's incredible kindness in approving me > > anyway, despite my ugly behaviour. However, this did not gave me the > > right to attack Brion publicly, especially in such tone, and to > > generate this drama. Please accept my humble apologies. > > > > Guess the only way to redeem myself would be to do my best in > > contributing to MediaWiki. > > > > Once again, I'm sorry. [strikes the wall with his head] > > > > If there was a Drama Jar that people had to put a $1 in for silly > pointless drama related to wikipedia, WMF wouldn't have to do > fundraisers anymore. > > So I really wouldn't worry too much about it :) > > - -Q > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEAREIAAYFAkrZzVMACgkQ69PBoSWyJd6U3gCfQFsmn/QjI7bGzlgJEwBNH1jc > ET4AniY4TGT/PNzGPw5prklnGM1zfa2G > =UDyK > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >

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New SVN user
by Tim Starling 17 Oct '09

17 Oct '09

Max Semenik (maxsem) to work on SQLite support. -- Tim Starling

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FlaggedRevs en.wp deployment update
by Erik Moeller 16 Oct '09

16 Oct '09

All, this is a quick note to let you know that we've signed on two people, William Pietri and Howie Fung, to help us on a contract basis with the deployment of Flagged Revisions on the English Wikipedia. William is an IT consultant and systems/software engineer; see his userpage at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:William_Pietri -- he is also a long-time Wikipedian. He will support the overall roll-out coordination and requirements planning. Howie is an experienced Product Manager who previously worked with Real Networks/Rhapsody and PayPal; see LinkedIn profile here: <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=3830901>. We met Howie during our search for the Multimedia Usability Product Manager position, and were impressed by his background, particularly with regard to user focused product development, and some great first thoughts he sent us on how to improve the usability of Wikimedia Commons. Given his background, we thought it would be great to have his help in doing some more systematic analysis of usability, terminology and workflow issues with the proposed English Wikipedia roll-out. We are eager to roll out the "Flagged Protection" functionality soon. As Howie and William get up to speed, they'll post info on remaining work, and get community feedback on what's vital to have before the first release. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

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Re: [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs en.wp deployment update
by Chad 16 Oct '09

16 Oct '09

You know...that /tests directory. It always keeps fooling people into thinking we keep unit tests there ;-) -Chad On Oct 16, 2009 2:29 PM, "Aryeh Gregor" <Simetrical+wikilist(a)gmail.com<Simetrical%2Bwikilist(a)gmail.com>> wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM, William Pietri <william(a)scissor.com> wrote: > [1] If I end up with ... What existing test suite? _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia....

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Image view statistics?
by Michael Peel 16 Oct '09

16 Oct '09

Hi all, Is it possible to find out how many times any given image has been viewed? I know that this can be done on Wikipedia (e.g. [1]), but can it be done on Commons? Ideally, I'd like to know how many times an image is viewed by all sites that use Commons as their image repository, preferably using the API. I see that there is a "counter" option in the API, but that doesn't seem to be working [2]. It's very useful to know the number of times images have been viewed when talking to people about releasing their images onto Commons. This was mentioned in one of the outcomes of the GLAM-WIKI event: "Provide statistics on visits to articles and images (including thumbnails loads) related to cultural institutions, information or images provided by them, or articles about their collections, and work with GLAM institutions on adding this to their existing metrics." A lot of this can be done externally if the information can be provided by the API or some other means. Thanks, Mike [1] http://stats.grok.se/en/200909/File%3AQueen%20Wilhelmina2.jpg [2[ http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php? action=query&titles=File:Queen% 20Wilhelmina2.jpg&prop=info&inprop=protection|talkid [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM-WIKI_Recommendations

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Commit access requests
by Chad 16 Oct '09

16 Oct '09

I've got that page on my watchlist and it doesn't change often. Checking it when it does is easy. The problem is finding someone who a) is willing to be that person and b) is trusted enough to make the decision to grant or not. -Chad On Oct 14, 2009 11:49 AM, "Aryeh Gregor" <Simetrical+wikilist(a)gmail.com<Simetrical%2Bwikilist(a)gmail.com>> wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Checking some... Not if it doesn't change on most days . . . load it up with all the sites you check every day and take ten seconds to see if there are any new requests. Or subscribe to the RSS feed, or whatever you want. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia....

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What happened to static Wikipedia page?
by Chengbin Zheng 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

The page is blank. What happened to http://static.wikipedia.org/?

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Commit access requests
by Happy-melon 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Actions like [1] cannot possibly be considered a good thing, but I certainly understand the sentiment behind it. Attracting new contributors is probably the most vital task of any collaborative volunteer project; without them, any such program is doomed to failure. This is an issue that affects Wikimedia as a whole, but MW development is arguably one of the least successful subprojects at this activity. Who is responsible for commit access requests now that Brion has left? That applies both in the long-term, once the new CTO is hired, and in the short term, for those requests that are in the queue Right Now. Whoever is responsible, needs as a matter of urgency to both clear the current queue, and to establish an ongoing procedure to clear it more regularly in future. Brion's last review was on 4th August, and left several requests unresolved. One of those requests is now over four months old. This is not an acceptable or sustainable gauntlet to put eager new contributors through. --HM [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Commit_access_requests&curid=369…

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