Wikitech-l June 2007

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stop autonumbering of Links in Parser.php
by Christoph 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

Hi, is there a possibility to stop or reset the counter of the autonumbering function within parser.php without using clearState()? Thank you very much Christoph

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Empty links accumulating in pagelinks table?
by Magnus Manske 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

On the toolserver, the pagelinks table contains lots'o'links to a blank target: select * from pagelinks where pl_title="" limit 100 ; (tried up to limit 10000, found 10000 but sloooow) Apparently, many links to empty page titles in namespace 0. This surfaced when one of my tools spat out blank results. It wasn't there a few weeks ago (two month at most). Tested for en and de wikipedia. Is this a toolserver replication thing, or are these things in the live database as well? It's probably not a showstopper, but we might want to get rid of both links and bug anyway. Magnus

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WebDAV
by Jack Bates 17 Jun '07

17 Jun '07

I'm working on a WebDAV interface to MediaWiki, based on the WebDAV module I contributed to the Gallery project: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WebDAV The goal of this project is: * To support connecting to MediaWiki with WebDAV clients like [http://www.webdav.org/cadaver/ cadaver] and [http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/fusedav/ fusedav]. * To support integrating MediaWiki with editors that support WebDAV, like Emacs and Eclipse. * To explore MediaWiki article histories with WebDAV clients that support the WebDAV versioning extension, DeltaV. * To support connecting to MediaWiki with a Subversion client like the command line or Eclipse Subclipse plugin. Connecting with Subversion is in the scope of this project because Subversion supports a protocol which is very close to WebDAV and DeltaV: http://subversion.tigris.org/webdav-usage.html By supporting Subversion clients, I can edit MediaWiki articles using the Emacs version control mode and I can explore MediaWiki article histories using the Eclipse Subclipse plugin. If I maintain a software project's documentation in MediaWiki, I can use the Subversion [http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.advanced.externals.html externals] feature to checkout MediaWiki articles along with the source code. These can then be distributed with the project or converted to PDF or manpage using XSL as part of the build process. So far I have implemented: * Some WebDAV features: GET, PUT, PROPFIND and DELETE. I can edit articles with cadaver, fusedav, Emacs and Eclipse. * Some DeltaV features: version-tree and baseline support. I can explore article histories and old revisions with cadaver. * Subversion checkout: I can checkout articles from the command line and explore article histories with Subclipse. Checkin will need support for the svndiff format, which happily is well documented in the Subversion source. You can install it by executing in your MediaWiki root directory: svn co http://svn.freegeek.org/svn/mediawiki-webdav/trunk . However the code is still very "proof of concept" - I'm still figuring out how the code will be finally organized. Unless I can contribute this interface to the MediaWiki project, I guess it should be organized as a MediaWiki extension? However I'm still getting familiar with how MediaWiki delegates requests to extensions. Most WebDAV clients demand hierarchical URLs and don't support query strings, so I currently use two additional PHP landing pages in the MediaWiki root directory: * webdav.php handles WebDAV requests for articles like webdav.php/<MediaWiki_Article_Name> * deltav.php is responsible for DeltaV functionality. Its layout is based on Subversion's, e.g. deltav.php/ver/<Revision_ID>, deltav.php/bc/<Revision_ID>, etc. If I continue using this layout, I will spend some time cleaning and reorganizing the code. But before I do, I'd love some feedback from MediaWiki developers: Is this a reasonable design? What are the alternatives to and the consequences of introducing these two new landing pages? Eventually, I would like to move this project to the MediaWiki Subversion repository. Here is my SSH public key, signed with my GPG key: http://cgi.sfu.ca/~jdbates/tmp/freegeek/id_dsa.pub.gpg My username is "jablko". I look forward to your input on this project! Thanks, Jack

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15 Jun '07

Hi, within the last few days we had various complaints in the OTRS (info-de) that people cannot log into their accounts on de.WP. Can somebody please check if there is any problem on the server side? And it is not the password=username-problem. Best regards, Sven

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Concerns about deletion log below
by Any File 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 connelm wrote > > So, sysops never make mistakes like this? > http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&p > age=%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%99%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%9E%D7%9F While including the > deleted text was neat for the first couple days, I don't think it is so > great, now. Perhaps the automatic inclusion in the comment of "content was" followed by the first characters of the text should be review. To solve this problem it would be enough that a comment is required (most of the time just one or two words are enough to explain, so not a big time effort) AnyFile

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Concerns about deletion log below
by connelm＠msn.com 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

>On 11/06/07, Daniel Cannon <cannon.danielc(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Yes, I do love that! I think this would be a great addition to the >> deletion mechanism, and, seeing as it's already been done for block, >> will not serve too difficult to do. If I can find some time this week >> (and if Titoxd doesn't finish up the script player for the API testing >> -- meaning that I would need to get back to doing what I'm supposed to >> be doing here :D), maybe I'll take a stab at this. > >Gosh, speeding in a culture of template responses? Can't wait for that. Bated breath. > > >Rob Church So, sysops never make mistakes like this? http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&p age=%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%99%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%9E%D7%9F While including the deleted text was neat for the first couple days, I don't think it is so great, now. Connel No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.15/847 - Release Date: 6/12/2007 9:42 PM

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Concerns about deletion log below noarticletext
by connelm＠msn.com 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

On en.wiktionary.org, the broad majority of sysops use the feature in [[wikt:WT:PREFS]] to override the deletion message unconditionally, to prevent libelous information from appearing in the deletion logs. Since our deletion logs ARE harvested, it seemed rather prudent. The only sysops that don't have it turned on, are sysops that essentially never delete stuff. With the appearance of the deletion log on deleted pages, we're revisiting how we handle misspellings. It would be nice to know if this lovely new feature will stay around long enough to make a decent test of the new method (not yet started.) On another note, the fantastic mechanism now in play for "Block messages" is, I think, a superb template for how Deletion log comments should be entered. --Connel MacKenzie http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Connel_MacKenzie somewiktadmin(a)gmail.com

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Foundation-l] only six new accounts per day per ip?
by Lars Aronsson 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Ragib Hasan wrote: > Since many users are not familiar with editing, the workshop > involves showing them how to create an account, [...] > > However, it came to our notice that from a single IP address, no > more than 6 new accounts could be created. As a technical solution (and this is why I'm moving this discussion to wikitech-l) to aid this social process, I think it could be useful if one user could "sponsor" or "adopt" (i.e. become the "parent" of) a newcomer. Then the teacher in such a scenario could be the "sponsor" of 20 new accounts, and the limit of 6 new accounts per IP address would only need to apply to non-sponsored (or "orphan") new accounts. As the newcomer gets older and more mature, the sponsorship link could be dropped. People trying to contact the newcomer, would be directed to the parent/sponsor. Or messages to the newcomer would be copied to the parent/sponsor. The ability to sponsor new accounts should perhaps be limited to admins or some other trusted class of users. There could also be a limit in numbers, so that one teacher could sponsor 50 newcomers but not 500. I think this feature could be useful both in WMF projects and when MediaWiki is used for other (educational) type situations. Has this been tried? -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se

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Re: [Wikitech-l] SVN: [22867] trunk/phase3
by Raimond Spekking 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

robchurch(a)svn.wikimedia.org schrieb: > Revision: 22867 > Author: robchurch > Date: 2007-06-09 16:19:38 +0000 (Sat, 09 Jun 2007) > > Log Message: > ----------- > * Clean up and document Linker::makeBrokenImageLinkObj() > * (bug 6743) Don't link broken image links to the upload form when uploads are disabled > This commit has broken 3 parsertest: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~hashar/tinder/?offset=20&limit=20 The problem seems to be the generated link: http://localhost/wikitest/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Image:F… It contains now the keyword "Image:" which results in a wrong insert in the upload form (field "Destination filename:"). Raymond.

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Screwiness with system messages
by Daniel Cannon 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Just found an odd problem -- not sure if it's something I did or if it's just screwed up in general though. Noticed that a scap was recently done on Wikimedia and so went to try out Special:Blockip to find that the "Prevent user from sending e-mail" message (MediaWiki:Ipblockemail) displayed as <ipblockemail> (or whatever screwiness it is when there is no such message), although the message had been defined in MessagesEn.php. When I went to the system message, it displayed the correct default message but did not take effect until I saved the message (creating it with its default value). This problem does not seem to exist on testwiki, and it never did on my local wiki or my public testwiki. Any idea what's going on? -- Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) http://amidaniel.com cannon.danielc(a)gmail.com

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