Wikitech-l May 2005

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<math> tags
by Sergey Samoylov 29 May '05

29 May '05

Hi, there... I've installed wikipedia on my site. But <math> tags on pages isn't handled. What do you think about it? Thanks Sergey

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Search
by Brion Vibber 29 May '05

29 May '05

I turned on the Lucene search for all our wikis a few hours ago. Currently everything except German, Russian, and Esperanto is running with the English stemmer. This may not produce totally correct results on some languages, but seems to be "good enough" to return at least some useful results in general. The index updater still needs a little work to fully automate; currently I'm just running a mass update of changed pages manually every couple of days. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Research Team: Getting started
by Erik Moeller 29 May '05

29 May '05

Cormac: > Hi, > I think the focus (or focii) of the group is yet to be decided. As it > says on the page, there will probably be various focus groups working > on their points of interest and then coming together at some point in > time. That's right. Research is too large and diverse a field to be united in a single focus group. On the other hand, all members of the Team should have at least a rough idea of the ongoing activities, and it should be possible to focus as many interested people as possible on a single high priority project that we choose. ("Let's get that single login specification ready by July.") In the first meeting, we can try to meet both goals by 1. having a general discussion about focus, priorities, etc. 2. splitting into breakaway groups for different topics (could be just two broad ones for now, e.g. "tech" and "sociology") 3. rejoining for synthesis and definition of deliverables. It goes without saying that nobody will have to sit through all three stages if they're not interested in a particular one. If this works, we can adopt it as a general principle. I'd like this effort to be as large and as open as possible: a massive, collaborative and well-coordinated research community. The very positive reaction to my initial invitations is a good sign that this could work. The topics for which we can form groups will depend on the interests of the people participating in any given meeting, so if you want a specific topic to be on the agenda, I suggest you take it upon yourself to make sure that the right people will be present. Invite them to the team. :-) Someone asked on Meta whether we have a mailing list. I suggest using wikitech-l for now, perhaps with "Research:" in the subject line. If that turns out to cause too much traffic, we'll create our own list. Again, anyone who is interested in joining this effort or who wants to know more about it should take a look at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research_Team We're also trying to sort out the date for the first meeting, so if you haven't already, please make an X in the date matrix for your preferred meeting times. (I'll send out direct emails to all members about this as well.) Best, Erik

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Special page inclusion
by Tim Starling 28 May '05

28 May '05

Many wiki engines have the ability to put the last few changes from RC on the main page, or in the sidebar. MediaWiki will have this in 1.5, with special page inclusion. There will be a whitelist of supported special pages, currently Recentchanges, Allpages and (thanks to Erik) Newpages. The syntax is e.g. {{Special:Recentchanges/10}} for the last 10 changes. It's not currently known how many special pages will be supported by the time 1.5 is released, or what their subpage-like parameters will be. My main motivation for doing this was to allow the creation of a better alphabetical index, similar to [[Wikipedia:Quick index]], for use in a static HTML dump. It would be nice to address the problem of internationalisation of special page names and subpage parameters at some stage. -- Tim Starling

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image dumps
by Kate Turner 28 May '05

28 May '05

i've started running an image dump for en.wp using a version of trickle with large-file support (the last one died after 2GB). if this works i'll set up regular image dumps again along with the db backups. the copy is running slowly so as not to overload the fileserver, so dumps may not be entirely up to date when done. kate.

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Video thumbnailer feature
by Emmanuel Engelhart 28 May '05

28 May '05

Hi all We do not propose a thumbnailer feature with videos. Might be a good feature for commons... Why ? I took a look on totem-video-thumbnailer which can do that. Example: $ totem-video-thumbnailer -s 95 video.mpg thumb.jpg Opinion about adding this feature ? Best regards Kelson

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Edit & move rate limiter
by Brion Vibber 28 May '05

28 May '05

I've whipped up a fairly basic rate limiter which can be used to provide a brake to mass-floods of edits or page moves. It's experimental and probably still needs some work. Since it's relatively self-contained and I think some people would like to have it yesterday ;) I've gone ahead and checked it into the REL1_4 branch as well as HEAD. This is not a comprehensive antispam or antivandalism solution; it's part of a soft security system to keep things from getting too far out of human control: for instance you can specify that a new user account can only perform up to 2 pages in 90 seconds (or 1 page in 3600 seconds ;) so a malicious script would not be able to as easily flood things at a rate of say one move per second. Currently it requires using memcached, though that's not really necessary and will be fixed soon. Over the next few days I'll also be working on improvements to the open proxy blacklist checking and the shared spam URL blacklist system. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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HistoryBlobStubs in MediaWiki 1.5
by elwp＠gmx.de 28 May '05

28 May '05

Why does MW 1.5 still use HistoryBlobStubs? Wouldn't it be better to add another id (or hash) column to the revision table that references a specific text in a HistoryBlob, and move the flags column there, too? This way one would also get rid of the $mDefaultHash variable. -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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Lists of computer science educators?
by Erik Moeller 28 May '05

28 May '05

Hi, I would like us to slowly and experimentally (!) begin a systematic effort to contact computer science educators who might be interested in assigning MediaWiki-related work to their students. Professors I've talked to so far were cautiously interested, and my intuition is that a global outreach effort could lead to some real outside participation. So, my question is, are any of you aware of lists of professors and teachers in the field of computer science, particularly software? It can be country-specific or limited in other ways, but any list as a starting point would be very useful. Even a proprietary database might be interesting. All best, Erik

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about having access to old_text through SQL
by Kevin Carillo 28 May '05

28 May '05

Hello everybody. I've successfully imported both cur and old tables. However, I am realizing that the text parts in the "old" table seem to be in a compressed format. I do not know how Mediawiki is able to uncompress it and display it properly. but I'd like to have access the the column "old_text" through SQL queries, how could I do that? Indeed, I need to know the real length of each edit or comment. Thank you. Kevin Carillo

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