Wikitech-l December 2005

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Re: [Foundation-l] Hosting scans of the 1911 Britannica on Wikimedia
by Brian 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

You select one of the name ranges, and then it will list all the pages for that range. You then select one of those pages to get the actual image for that page. Anthony DiPierro wrote: >Hmm, I tried that out and all I got was a list of name ranges. Must >be doing something wrong. I'll try it again when I get home from >work. > >Thanks for the info. > >Anthony > >On 12/1/05, Brian <brian0918(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>Tim Starling has a demo of it at the link below. I don't know if he's still >>doing anything with it though. You might ask on wikitech-l. >> >>http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Tim_Starling >> >> >> >>Anthony DiPierro wrote: >>Whatever happened to this? Are they being hosted anywhere yet? I'd >> >> >really > > >>like to get my hands on a copy of this data. >> >> > >Anthony > >On 11/8/05, Brian > > >><brian0918(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > >>For those who don't know, the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica is a >>famous >> >> >public domain encyclopedia, advertised as the "sum of all > > >>human >> >> >knowledge" in 1911. > >I recently (today) acquired a DVD containing > > >>scans of every page of the >> >> >1911 Britannica, along with index files for it > > >>all, organized by letter >> >> >and page number. I've already talked with avar, > > >>TimStarling, and brion >> >> >on IRC, and TimStarling specifically asked me to tell > > >>you all that he is >> >> >"confident that the server requirements will be minimal." > > >>They would set >> >> >up a domain name, generate some web pages automatically using > > >>the index >> >> >files, and host the entire set of 29,700 files totaling about 4 > > >>GB. >> >> > >One more thing, these are black and white TIFs, and there is > > >>discussion >> >> >about whether they should be mass converted to PNGs to be easily > > >>viewable. >> >> > >brian0918(a)gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >foundation-l > > >>mailing >>list >> >> >foundation-l(a)wikimedia.org >http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > >> >> > > >

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How to (safely) prune the database: removing oldest revision of Article, Talk, User, User_talk pages
by Thomas Gries 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

Question to the database experts: - How can the database of MediaWiki 1.5.x safely be pruned ( in order to actually remove the oldest revisions of Article, Talk, User and User_talk pages ) ? An older answer given to me begin of 2005 was DELETE FROM old WHERE old_timestamp < '20050101000000'; or whatever Is it safe to use this statement or is another one recommended ?

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Re: Credit card processing for forthcoming
by Jonathan Leybovich 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

> > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:34:33 +0000 > From: Neil Harris <usenet(a)tonal.clara.co.uk> > Subject: Credit card processing for forthcoming > fundraiser: Was: Re: > [Wikitech-l] pages update call :-) > To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org> > Cc: board(a)wikimedia.org > > > If there's going to be another fundraiser soon, does > anyone know if any > progress has been made towards accepting credit card > donations? > > I believe that this could significantly improve the > amount of money > donated, by removing a barrier to donation for > people would like to > donate but do not have PayPal-style accounts, and do > not want the hassle > of money orders, inter-bank-transfers and so on. > Online credit card processing actually fits within the expertise of my day job so hopefully I can be of some help. In order to directly accept credit card payments the Wikimedia Foundation will have to establish a "merchant" relationship with a credit card payment system. At least in the U.S. there are two basic types: processor and gateway. The former has much more stringent requirements, including specific network configurations (usually a leased-line connection directly to the payment system) and a lengthy certification process. Gateways are much simpler, and some allow connecting to their payment servers over the Internet using generic protocols such as HTTP. The drawback to using gateways are that they are middle-men whose services are simply wrappers on top of processor specifications which the Foundation could just as well directly implement. The choice thus comes down to whether the increased cost of using a gateway exceeds the headache of directly dealing with a processor. If the Foundation wants to directly handle credit cards payments then the first step is to talk with the payment systems about rates. I am confused, though, as to why PayPal is not a viable option. Every payment system imposes some sort of per-transaction fee, and the 3% transaction amount charge reflects not another part of PayPal's cut, but simply the fact that the merchant receives money from the card holder's bank immediately while the card holder is given a 20-30 day grace period before interest accrues on their new balance. Thus switching from PayPal may not necessarily save much on costs. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Patch: suppress auto-numbering of TOC and honour user prefs
by Netocrat 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

This is a minimal change to add a new magic token that prevents numbering of the TOC and to do the same when the user option "Auto-number headings" under "Misc" in "Preferences" is set. This option is already retrieved through $this->mOptions->getNumberHeadings(); but currently not used effectively. The token directive is useful because some sections in a wiki may already include numbering as part of the heading and suppressing auto-numbering is useful in those cases. Index: includes/Parser.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/wikipedia/phase3/includes/Parser.php,v retrieving revision 1.509 diff -u -r1.509 Parser.php --- includes/Parser.php 23 Sep 2005 12:10:39 -0000 1.509 +++ includes/Parser.php 24 Sep 2005 12:57:48 -0000 @@ -2461,8 +2461,15 @@ */ function formatHeadings( $text, $isMain=true ) { global $wgMaxTocLevel, $wgContLang, $wgLinkHolders, $wgInterwikiLinkHolders; - - $doNumberHeadings = $this->mOptions->getNumberHeadings(); + + # if the string __NOTOCNUM__ (not case-sensitive) occurs in the HTML, + # or if the user prefers not to, do not add TOC Numbering + $mw =& MagicWord::get( MAG_NOTOCNUM ); + if( $mw->matchAndRemove( $text ) ) { + $doNumberHeadings = false; + } else { + $doNumberHeadings = $this->mOptions->getNumberHeadings(); + } $doShowToc = true; $forceTocHere = false; if( !$this->mTitle->userCanEdit() ) { @@ -2647,7 +2654,7 @@ $anchor .= '_' . $refcount[$headlineCount]; } if( $doShowToc && ( !isset($wgMaxTocLevel) || $toclevel<$wgMaxTocLevel ) ) { - $toc .= $sk->tocLine($anchor, $tocline, $numbering, $toclevel); + $toc .= $sk->tocLine($anchor, $tocline, $doNumberHeadings?$numbering:'', $toclevel); } if( $showEditLink && ( !$istemplate || $templatetitle !== "" ) ) { if ( empty( $head[$headlineCount] ) ) { Index: languages/Language.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/wikipedia/phase3/languages/Language.php,v retrieving revision 1.684 diff -u -r1.684 Language.php --- languages/Language.php 23 Sep 2005 12:10:39 -0000 1.684 +++ languages/Language.php 24 Sep 2005 12:58:06 -0000 @@ -190,6 +190,7 @@ # ID CASE SYNONYMS MAG_REDIRECT => array( 0, '#redirect' ), MAG_NOTOC => array( 0, '__NOTOC__' ), + MAG_NOTOCNUM => array( 0, '__NOTOCNUM__' ), MAG_FORCETOC => array( 0, '__FORCETOC__' ), MAG_TOC => array( 0, '__TOC__' ), MAG_NOEDITSECTION => array( 0, '__NOEDITSECTION__' ), -- http://members.dodo.com.au/~netocrat

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Using Talk pages to influence Google results (Most read US newpaper blasts Wikipedia)
by David Gerard 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

Would it be a good idea to tell our robots.txt not to index talk pages? - d. jkelly(a)fas.harvard.edu wrote: > I wasn't aware that Google results were influenced by material on Talk pages. > If this is true, it explains instances in which I have seen anons post some > ideological screed in the article, have it removed, and then re-post it > repeatedly into the article's Talk page. Is this actually that effective a > tactic for using Wikipedia as a soapbox? > > Jason > > > > Quoting slimvirgin(a)gmail.com: > > >>On 11/30/05, Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)ctelco.net> wrote: >> >>>This case Slim Virgin mentions is in arbitration now and a blatant >>>example of gaming Google by associating the name of the person with a >>>lot of accusations he has only a marginal connection with ... >>>At a minimum we need to not allow Google to index our talk pages. We >>>talk about a lot of things. They may be about information but they >>>are not encyclopedic. >> >>Fred, the case I was referring to isn't the one that's in arbitration, >>though I know the one you mean, and it's quite similar. I'm starting >>to wonder whether this is happening a lot: that troublemakers see our >>talk pages as a sort of Trojan horse. They pretend to be having an >>innocent conversation designed to sort out the good from the bad >>material, whereas in fact the discussion is only a vehicle being used >>to spread the bad stuff, which they know won't survive in our >>articles. >> >>Sarah >>_______________________________________________ >>WikiEN-l mailing list >>WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >

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Edits from bayle.wikimedia.org??
by David Gerard 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

Doing a CheckUser, I saw someone as coming from 207.142.131.239. That's bayle.wikimedia.org ... how does that show up as the IP an edit's coming from? - d.

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