Wikitech-l August 2004

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How to get a list of authors for each article
by Jakob Voss 30 Aug '04

30 Aug '04

Hi there, The coming CD version of the German wikipedia (see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_auf_CD) should include a list of authors for each article, as the GFDL requires. I am not that good in SQL - can anybody help? For each article a statement like this should be produced: "This article has been edited X times by Y wikipedia users and Z times by anonymous users: Foouser, Blauser, ...." A table All users should be listed - but not the IP-numbers of anonymous posts! I thought of some SQL statements like (untested): CREATE TABLE article_edit_count ( article VARCHAR(255) BINARY edited_by_wikipedians INT UNSIGNED, edited_with_IP INT UNSIGNED ); CREATE TABLE has_edited ( user VARCHAR(255) BINARY, article VARCHAR(255) BINARY ); INSERT INTO has_edited SELECT DISTINCT old_user_text AS user, old_title AS article FROM old WHERE old_namespace=0 UNION SELECT cur_user_text AS user, cur_title AS article Well... but how to distingish anonymous and logged in users? How can the authors be determined and how many hours/days does it take to run the SQL statements? By the way on my notebook a simple query for counting the number of links to each article, that I called 4 hours ago, is still running and running :-( Thanks, Jakob

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Using code from MediaWiki - the GPL
by Eckhart Wörner 30 Aug '04

30 Aug '04

Hello Magnus, Magnus Manske schrieb: > Why not help developing (or jsut sit back and wait till it is done;-) Sitting back and waiting is always the worse decision. :-) > that XML generator? It will run at the wikipedia site, and one can then > probably grab "real" XML - not the pseudo-XML one can get now through > SpecialPages-Export. This could include list of authors etc. Then you > can do your XUL thing. Also, this will mean that we (wikimedia) gets an > XML standard, instead of everyone generating their own flavour of wiki XML. Just saw the Wikipedia DTD, and stopped sitting back. ;-) Eckhart -- [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_DTD

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Wikipedia Personal Views
by Simon Kissane 30 Aug '04

30 Aug '04

Hi all, I have implemented the following feature in MediaWiki, which maybe some might find interesting/useful -- "Personal Views". Basically, any article page has a "Personal Views" page attached to it; on subpages of the personal views page, User's can record their personal views of the topic of the article. So, for example, User:Foo can record their personal viewpoint on Microsoft on the page Personal_Views:Microsoft/Foo, a page which only User:Foo can edit. And by going to "Personal_Views:Microsoft", we can see everyone's personal views on Microsoft. Some questions: 1. Any comments on how I implemented this? Anything in adding a new namespace I forget to do? 2. Can I add this to the CVS? Also, since my changes are relatively small, it might serve as an example of how to add a new namespace to WikiMedia. (Maybe I can turn it into a tutorial...) Cheers Simon Kissane

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Using code from MediaWiki - the GPL
by Eckhart Wörner 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

Hello, well, I don't know where to address this to, so I address it to this mailing list in the hope that it will not be entirely wrong. As I'm going to write some converter for wiki markup, I need a way to interprete quotes ('). As this is something really not trivial, I thought of copying the function doQuotes from the mediawiki software. The Problem is the Licence: the function is licenced under the GPL, this means, that my 'derivative work' has to be licenced under the GPL, too. Well, I thought of publishing the source code, too, but I'm more a fan of the Creative Commons licences (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/de/ in this case, to be precise). But this creates trouble with the GPL, which makes it impossible to use the CC licence. Does someone know a solution of this problem? Regards, Eckhart

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Being productive with interwikis
by Mathias Schindler 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

Hi, I was wondering if the interwikis could help wikipedians to focus on missing articles in the editions. Let me explain If an article has several interwikis, this might be an "indication" that this lemma is valid. So my idea is to produce lists of articles that follow this attributes: * A list of English articles that do have x > {2,3,..} interwikis but don't have an interwiki to de. * A list of French articles that do have x > {2,3,..} interwikis but don't have an interwiki to de. and so on. There are (imho) three possible main solutions for coming into that list: * The article is still missing in de.wikipedia (fix: Write that article) * The article existis but is not linked (fix: set up that interwiki) * The article is split up for disambiguation Is there an efficient way to produce that lists? Are there objections to that thought? Does anyone think that there are easier ways to achieve that result of bringing the editions closer to each other? Mathias

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Using 404 to redirect /bla to /wiki/bla
by erik_moeller＠gmx.de 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

This script: http://scireview.de/temp/404.php.txt when used as an ErrorHandler 404 in httpd.conf will try to redirect URLs like http://en.wikipedia.org/Engine to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine (It skips over /wiki, /style and /upload and uses the standard 404 instead for those.) Any objections to putting it in use? Also, is there a way to quickly, gracefully restart all our Apaches? Regards, Erik

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CVS access
by Simon Kissane 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

Hi, I am listed on this page http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Developer as having CVS accesss, which I did, but then I lost it (I accidentally created two SF.net accounts, so my old one was deleted, which happened to be the one my CVS access was under.) Could someone please re-add me to the SF.net project and re-enable my CVS? Thanks Simon Kissane

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Re: Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 13, Issue 67
by Simon Kissane 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

Well, Talk pages are supposed to be discussion of the content of the article, not discussion of the topic per se. Secondly, I supposed I was interested in the possibilities for enabling MediaWiki to be used for smaller communities that do more than just create an encyclopedia (i.e. record information) but actually debate and discuss things. In that context, seeing a list of people's personal views on a topic might be interesting. And personal views can always be potentially combined into an article (assuming that the view is sufficiently common, or the person expressing the view is sufficiently important) in that MediaWiki's universe (which might potentially follow a different topic focus or POV rules from Wikipedia.) Cheers Simon On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:19:05 +0000 (UTC), wikitech-l-request(a)wikimedia.org <wikitech-l-request(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:20:11 +0200 > From: Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Wikitech-l] Re: Wikipedia Personal Views > To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org > Message-ID: <4130A2AB.9000403(a)yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I am curious... why would personal views interest a reader ? > > And talk pages already exist for this I think... > > Ant

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edit page and robots="noindex" meta tag
by Jens Ropers 29 Aug '04

29 Aug '04

Can we add a robots="noindex" meta tag to the respective HTML source, so that that tag will be included with EVERY article's edit page? To explain: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Robots.txt#Don.27t_index_vs_don.27t_spider I logged this as bug 242 in MediaZilla. -- Jens [[User:Ropers|Ropers]] www.ropersonline.com

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Graph drawing plugin
by Jakob 28 Aug '04

28 Aug '04

hi! In de: we have a lot of articles on graph theory missing example images. Graphs are also useful in other articles to visualize information. Editing images of graphs with your favorite program and format is a consumption of time and nobody can easily alter my images. We do have <math> and <hiero>-section. I'd like editable graphs with <graph>...</graph>. We could easily use the DOT-syntax and [http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/ graphviz] to create PNG-images or SVG. It's damn powerful and not that complicated! Greetings, Jakob

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