Wikitech-l April 2004

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Time to get some new servers
by Camille Constans 04 Jul '05

04 Jul '05

Hello, As wikipedia is slow at the busy time, I propose to get some new servers for our cluster. - Some new web servers(3 or 4), P4 2,8Ghz with 2Go of RAM - A server which could be a backup for nfs server, zwinger, with bigger disk, 80Go is very low, maybe 200 or 250Go - Upgrading disk of zwinger to 200 or 250Go (or add a new one) - A db server in 64 bits mode with 4Go of RAM (if we cant make working geoffrin), like this one : http://www.macomp.com/products/servers/patriot2200.asp With raid 10 disk system, 4 or 6 drives in raid and 1 stand-by. I prefer 15000rpm disk, but I can understand that they are more expensive - Maybe another squid server What do you think of that ? Shaihulud

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Graph drawing plugin
by Jakob 27 Aug '04

27 Aug '04

hi! In de: we have a lot of articles on graph theory missing example images. Graphs are also useful in other articles to visualize information. Editing images of graphs with your favorite program and format is a consumption of time and nobody can easily alter my images. We do have <math> and <hiero>-section. I'd like editable graphs with <graph>...</graph>. We could easily use the DOT-syntax and [http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/ graphviz] to create PNG-images or SVG. It's damn powerful and not that complicated! Greetings, Jakob

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wikisource.com
by Jimmy Wales 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

By accident, I typed http://www.wikisource.com/ and achieved an undesirable result. This is presumably a very minor configuration issue somewhere. --Jimbo

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Multilingual interface
by Nikola Smolenski 22 May '04

22 May '04

I have managed to make changes to code which enable users to choose their user interface language, feature sought at Wikisource, Wiktionary etc. To whom should I send the code?

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Language file updates
by Brion Vibber 13 May '04

13 May '04

I'm sorry a lot of these have been held up for a while; we've been mainly working on stabilizing the wikis under the new server setup and preparing to put out a new release of the MediaWiki software with all the latest fixes and features -- for which of course we'll want the latest language files included. My old todo list page has gotten rather unwieldy and out of date, I'm afraid, and it's hard to tell what's been done, what hasn't, etc. It would be a big help if people could put the relevant information onto these new wiki pages (currently empty): http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_list_of_language_names All the suggestions for native language names that have been posted separately recently. http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_files_to_be_updated Please link to the exact wiki page that contains the updated file, or attach an update and send it to this list and say which was sent. If possible, please compare against the version of the file in CVS: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/languages/ and ensure that anything that got updated separately in CVS is also in your version. http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_language_bugs Any other bugs or problems that are specific to one of the languages/wikis: missing or corrupted messages, logo updates, sysops, etc. Hopefully we can get these things cleared up in the next few days... -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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HTML to wiki(pedia) toy
by Magnus Manske 05 May '04

05 May '04

I hacked a little C++ utility (hereby under GPL, source files attached) that converts HTML to wiki markup. A few points: * It should compile on any Windows/*nix system (you might have to turn off warnings, though) * Pipe the HMTL in, and get wiki markup out * Shouldn't touch existing wiki markup * Keeps HTML if there's no wiki markup defined for it * Other wiki markup (for other wikis) can be added with only a few lines of source * Internally uses a new string class with 32-bit-chars (potential for unicode there, also it should work with unicode "as is") Downsides: * Doesn't check HTML/wiki markup validity (broken HTML will become broken wiki markup, which might be less bad though) * Ignores <nowiki> (though I don't think that matters) Idea: Have a checkbox on the edit page (or maybe on preferences instead) that says: "Convert HTML to wiki markup on preview" Conversion *should* only take place prior to preview, so a human can make certain nothing's broken. Magnus

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short domain name please.
by Hunter Peress 01 May '04

01 May '04

can someone act quickly before an enterprising punk reads this ;-) just like sourceforge.net has sf.net we should have wp.org for wikipedia.org eg: bittorrent.sourceforge.net -> bittorrent.sf.net i dream of : mail.wp.org it.wp.org , ko.wp.org, en.wp.org de.wp.org , download.wp.org ............ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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user styles, rtl, raw text action
by Gabriel Wicke 01 May '04

01 May '04

There's been some progress with the monobook skin recently, new things are basic rtl support and user styles. You can tweak styles in the monobook skin by adding a page called 'monobook.css' as a subpage of your user page. My test css is at http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gwicke/monobook.css for example. Similar with js, the it's called monobook.js in that case. Other skins don't have the links in the header currently, but those are easy to add. The css and js pages are editable only to the user and developers, they appear protected to anybody else. The wiki src is retrived with a new method to get the raw wiki text: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gwicke/monobook.css?action=raw&ctype=te… Allowed ctypes are text/css, text/javascript, text/x-wiki and application/x-zope-edit. Any of these return the plain wiki src, just the content header differs. A charset option is optional, e.g. &charset=utf-8. Brion and me have added an RTL stylesheet to monobook, it seems to work fine in Opera 7.23, Mozilla/Firefox, IE5.5 and mostly IE6. Screenshots at http://wikidev.net/MonoBook_RTL. -- Gabriel Wicke

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Hardware stuff
by Brion Vibber 01 May '04

01 May '04

There've been some changes to the hardware: new disks on zwinger and suda. If someone's got details, and any knowledge of browne's situation, an announcement would be welcome. Currently we're having lots of trouble with the squids. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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The bug is out there...
by Rich Holton 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

Several weeks ago, I reported what I thought to be some sort of bug. At that time, it involved the Wikipedia:Orphaned articles page becoming "duplicated", meaning that the text of the page appeared two and a fraction times. I heard talk of this sort of thing happening elsewhere, and now it has happened on Village pump. In both cases (Orphaned articles and Village pump), there were three very quick edits by one user -- apparently repeated clicking of the submit button? Please take a look at the three edits to Village Pump by User:Calmypal at 19:35, 29 Apr 2004. It appears that the first one happened normally. The second one replaced the page with a partial copy of the page. The third one seemed to have a partial page followed by a full page. Note also that the first and third edit summaries include the "M" for a minor edit, and a header in the summary. The middle one had no "M" and no summary. So, the user pressed submit, which worked but the user didn't see the results. The user pressed submit a second time, and then a third time sometime in the middle of the second's processing, interrupting the second and appending the third. Does that somehow make sense? Is it somehow possible that the edit conflict resolution gets confused when it has a conflict between the same user (if you know what I mean)? I know that all the information is preserved in the history, but fixing it, especially on a heavy use page like Village pump, is a real pain in the butt. Just out of curiosity, if I have two open edit sessions of the same page, and press submit on both in very short succession, what happens? -Rich Holton __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

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