I originally thought the new server would be up long before the new
software was ready, but it didn't work out that way. Jim's moving
and other things has let the server sit idle, and the new codebase is
just a few hours away from completion.
This gives us an opportunity, and I'd like to suggest a course of
action here and see what the group thinks (especially Jimbo if he's
reading, and Jason). One thing that has become clear to me that
despite all my pleas, QA testing for the new software has been
woefully inadequate. I'll make another pass, and give it a few more
days myself, but the only way to get good testing is the foist it
upon the Wikipedia community at large.
The new server gives us an opportunity to do that in a way that gives
us an emergency fallback--the old server. So here's what I suggest:
I'll create the transition plan and scripts, and test them out on the
new server. We'll have one round of QA for people to test the new
software in situ, but during which the old server will still be the
active site. Then we clean it up and do the transition for real,
making the new server live. New code, new server all at once. My
best estimate is that transition time, during which the old Wikipedia
will be accessible but read-only, should be 2-3 hours, so we should
pick a low-demand time for it.
If the transition fails immediately, we just abandon it and go back
to the old server, and try again later. If it succeeds initially,
but after a few days we dicover something drastically wrong, we can
still go back to the old server, updating the database with the
changes of those few days (for which I have prepared a script). If
everything goes well, then after a week or two Bomis can recycle the
old server and we're upand running.
Jimbo, Jason, I also went ahead and installed MySQL/PHP/Apache on the
new server from source (after testing all of them on my server first--
and yes, that includes this week's Apache security fix). My notes on
exactly what I did are in /home/lee/src/README on the server, and the
sources are in /usr/local/src. Please review the installation and
see if it's what you had in mind, or let me know what differences you
envision. I would also like your feedback on any details of the wiki
software installation you have in mind (directories, etc.)
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Hi!
I'd like to have sysop status at test-de.wikipedia.com,
so that I'm able to play around with article renaming and all those
other nice features we have now.
Username: Kurt Jansson
Maybe someone could also give sysop status to Ben-Zin, who is very
active in testing the new software.
When I'm sysop, can I give these rights to the other Wikipedians?
Thanks!
Kurt
I just added a "special:maintenance" page to the CVS. The purpose is to
provide a collection of useful functions to keep the 'pedia running smoothly
and to find some often occuring obstacles.
Currently, it is limited to sysops only, as some of the functions use quite
some resources. So, if anyone updates the live site, it won't collapse;)
(Can somebody please check if I added that page to the sidebar in the
standard skin? I know I did it for CologneBlue, which is now the standard
skin;)
Existing functions on that page are:
* Find articles that REDIRECT to a REDIRECT. I didn't include an "autofix"
function - too dangerous, I suppose, without further testing. WARNING: This
function uses the LIKE SQL statement to look for "#REDIRECT %"!
* Find articles that link to themselves. Nice and fast one. Lists many user
pages, though, if they signed it somewhere...
* Find article that explicitely link to their own "Talk:" page. Also quite
fast.
* Uploaded files and where they are used. By popular demand;) WARNING: This
uses LIKE "%URL%" for *every* uploaded file!!! Also, it might not work on
all filenames, especially those with special chars. Needs serious workover.
BTW, I noticed that when I edit an existing article (not a new one,
strangely), I am not logged in for that page, and I don't have the "minor
change" option as a result. Hitting "Preview" logs me in again. I couldn't
reproduce that on my local copy. Can anyone please check?
Magnus
I have the impression that on the English Wikipedia the links of the
type [[articel/sub-articel]] are converted to [[sub-articel of articel]]
So that there are no somthing/somthing pages left.
Why ? Is it a software thing ? It still works on the test-wikipedia.
Or is it Wikipedia English pollicy (that other Wikipedia's not have to
follow)
I like to know it because we are still using that method of linking on
the Dutch wikipedia. -- giskart
Hi All,
I got wiki up and running on the first page (wiki.phtml). My environment
is Redhat 7.1 with MySQL 3.23.36 , Apache 1.23, and php 4.2.1. MySQL,
apache, and PHP works fine.
Wiki does not seem to work correctly. On the first page, the
link to "edit page" does not allow me to edit the first page. Second, any
links to /wiki/special:xxx such as /wiki/special:ListUsers does not work.
I got error :
"The requested URL /wiki/special:ListUsers was not found on this server."
I don't know whether I misconfigure anything or because I just don't know
how to administrate/use it. I can't seem to find the user/admin manual either.
Can someone point me to any any documents ?
Thanks,
Nick
The new server, as has been mentioned before, is rather naked
at this point. I'd like to come up with a plan for getting it
up and running. First order of business is to decide exactly
what software to install and how. My personal recommendation
is this:
Apache 1.3.24
MySQL 3.23.49 (Compiled with gcc 2.95.3, 3-char index)
libiconv 1.8
PHP 4.2.1 (Compiled as Apache module, with iconv)
APC 1.1.0
If anyone has any other recommendations, suggestions, experiences,
etc., relevant to these decisions, let me know. After we get all
of that up and running (and documented as to how it was all done),
then we can start talking about moving the site itself, by which
time the new software might be ready (or it might not--but we still
ought to move to the new server).
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Hello!
Is anybody still keeping an eye on
http://test-de.wikipedia.com/wiki/wikipedia%3ABeobachtete+Fehler ?
I'm sure you guys are busy, but ... ;-)
Can I help somehow? Shall I try to translate the page (I'm not so good
in translating, but I'd try). I don't know if Altavista's babelfish
could help here.
Is it really a good idea to keep the [[/talk]] links at the bottom of
the pages? On the English WP's RecentChanges I see quite often the
comment "deleted /talk link". So maybe they shouldn't be transformed to
be pointing to the namespace, but deleted?
Kurt
I got a message from somebody the other day saying that the Chinese
wikipedia is not working somehow (He said "I can't read the
Chinese"). zh.wikipedia.com is still using UseMod, would the PHP
script do better here (and should I try to set up the test site)?
--
"Jason C. Richey" <jasonr(a)bomis.com>
I haven't seen any conversation about how the latest international
wiki is working out... Is it functioning correctly? Are we ready to
move on to the next one?
--
"Jason C. Richey" <jasonr(a)bomis.com>