> Would anybody see the value in having a separate list for mod_wiki
> development questions/arguments?
>
> --
> "Jason C. Richey" <jasonr(a)bomis.com>
Sounds good to me. Would you like to be its administrator?
Ed Poor
wikiEN-l administrator
> Wasn't it Fred Brooks that wrote in the Mythical Man month: give me
your
> data structures, and I won't need your algorithms; give me your
> algorithms, and they will mean nothing without your data structures?
Brooks was good for his time, but Steve McConnell's "Rapid Development"
is my software bible. You can find excerpts at www.construx.com
> The interaction as I see it is a PHP module in the Apache web server
> runs some custom PHP code that connects to a MySQL database, runs
> queries, and uses the results to construct the appropriate pages.
This is the part I know. I need more detail.
Ed Poor
I want more than a description of what each table and field is for.
That's only a database schema. It provides a necessary foundation, but
it's not the whole building.
I want to know about the interaction of the client software with the
database.
Ed Poor
I wish someone with good technical writing skills would document the
Wikipedia software. I'd like something more than just a bare listing of
the fields of each table in the database. But something a lot faster to
read than the full source code with embedded comments.
Do you know anyone capable and willing to do this?
Ed Poor
Jonathan,
It sounds like your primary interest is porting Wikipedia software to
your own machine, rather than improving the operation of the Wikipedia
itself. Is this correct?
Ed Poor
Okay, I've read everything Jonathan has written. But I'm still not
happy.
What is the problem we are trying to solve?
How does the current software help solve this problem?
What does the current software do to cause this problem or make this
problem worse?
What will the proposed solution do, to address the above.
How can we test the proposed solution?
Ed Poor, a professional client/server programmer with over 35 years of
experience using computers
"Opinions expressed by me on the list are mine alone, not my employer's"
Jonathan,
Any savings you predict are only guesses. I don't think we can predict
the performance benefits of cutting down the *number* of separate
queries.
If you think otherwise, what is your basis?
Ed Poor
Software Estimation expert
Main changes:
1.
All characters have been automatically checked whether they
require AMS or not, so dynamic loading of AMS should be more robust.
2.
It is possible to use UTF-8 inside \mbox{}, not only ASCII.
I managed to render Polish characters, but it seems that
more work is needed to make latex work with CJK.
Unicode packages are not available in default TeTeX installation,
and have to be downloaded separately from
http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/
Unicode packages (ucs and inputenc:utf8) are loaded only
if there is \mbox containing non-ASCII characters.
I'm not really happy about this solution, but it should at least
work for English, Polish and Esperanto, and \mbox is not the most
important feature.
Btw. which Wikipedias on new software haven't moved to UTF-8 ?
It would be so much easier if everyone used the same encoding.
Because it is difficult to explain please read this;
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I have done some testing and it seems to work very well.
What do you think about to add all wikipedia lists to Gmane.org?
So you can read the lists like the where newsgroups.
It does not change anything to the mailings lists, the Usenet interface
is a extra way of using the lists, that is all. Nobody can send a
message to the list if the are not subscribed.
Because there is email verfication spam will not cause the list
administrator to receive a message about "As list administrator, your
authorization is requested" like i now receive a lot every day.
By the way, is there not possibility to blacklist some addresses to be
send directly to dev/null?
I receive a lot of spam from the same email adress to the lists. I
always report it to spamcop but i keeps coming. It gives a lot of work.
And the auto replay to the sender to inform the spammer that his message
is hold for approval gives a lot a bounce and then i receive a message
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Giskart