Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry
Yes and no, there are many options in Poland like Prague. I don't know how far it is from Katowice but it's still in Poland. In Prague you can see the famous Charles bridge and if you are interested in past German history, there is a place when Heydrich was assassinated. And also the church when they hid until their last. Others may add.
handoko -
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 04:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
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Minor point but last I checked Prague was not in Poland! I
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 12:40 Handoko Suwono, handokos27@gmail.com wrote:
Yes and no, there are many options in Poland like Prague. I don't know how far it is from Katowice but it's still in Poland. In Prague you can see the famous Charles bridge and if you are interested in past German history, there is a place when Heydrich was assassinated. And also the church when they hid until their last. Others may add.
handoko -
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 04:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
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Yes, Prague is not. It's Czech Republic and only shares border with Poland. Thanks for correcting. For me it's a good way to check it again through Wikipedia.
"With the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire after World War I, the state of Czechoslovakia was created in 1918, choosing Prague as the capital city. In March 1939, Prague was invaded by the Nazi troops and was made a German protectorate.
1993 Czechoslovakia was split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia, and Poland-Czechoslovakia relations were replaced by Poland–Czech Republic relations and Poland–Slovakia relations."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki Czechoslovakia–Poland relations - Wikipedia
- handoko
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 02:18 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Minor point but last I checked Prague was not in Poland! I
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 12:40 Handoko Suwono, handokos27@gmail.com wrote:
Yes and no, there are many options in Poland like Prague. I don't know how far it is from Katowice but it's still in Poland. In Prague you can see the famous Charles bridge and if you are interested in past German history, there is a place when Heydrich was assassinated. And also the church when they hid until their last. Others may add.
handoko -
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 04:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
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Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
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pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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My husband and I are planning on visiting Krakow at some point, although this will likely be after the conference.
Cary
From: Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:21 AM To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, <pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.commailto:pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT
--
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Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzikhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.commailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com> napisał(a): Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Il 14/12/23 21:21, Harry Mitchell ha scritto:
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Thanks for checking! I'm interested in joining, especially if it's on August 6 or 11 (to minimise chances of conflicts with other last-minute side events). The page https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Related_events doesn't exist yet, it would be good to create it as soon as some tentative date is chosen.
Federico
Hello,
For these planning to go — it can be an emotional experience, plan a whole day for it. It takes a while to visit (there are 2 locations) and you might have a depressing feeling for the rest of the day until you regain faith in humanity. This is why others recommend it as an individual experience.
Mārtiņš
pirmd., 2023. g. 18. dec., plkst. 10:55 — lietotājs Federico Leva (Nemo) (< nemowiki@gmail.com>) rakstīja:
Il 14/12/23 21:21, Harry Mitchell ha scritto:
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could
coordinate
plans.
Thanks for checking! I'm interested in joining, especially if it's on August 6 or 11 (to minimise chances of conflicts with other last-minute side events). The page https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Related_events doesn't exist yet, it would be good to create it as soon as some tentative date is chosen.
Federico _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
The best is to create collateral pages for people looking for excursions and to create small groups.
I spend quite a lot of time in Poland, but I visit the country thanks to a Polish friend, without him I would get lost quickly.
Krakow is quite touristic and in the town is sufficient to speak English, Katowice is a big commercial town and English is quite common but out of the big towns the use of English is not so widespread.
I went to the salt mine of Wieliczka by public transportation (I recommend too) but it was overcrowded (in October) and thanks to him I avoided a lot of queues and problems with the tickets.
Consider that these touristic points can be really overcrowded in August.
Kind regards
-- Ilario Valdelli Innovation programme lead Wikimedia CH Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.chhttp://www.wikimedia.ch/
From: Mārtiņš Bruņenieks martinsb@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 10:09 AM To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?
Hello,
For these planning to go — it can be an emotional experience, plan a whole day for it. It takes a while to visit (there are 2 locations) and you might have a depressing feeling for the rest of the day until you regain faith in humanity. This is why others recommend it as an individual experience.
Mārtiņš
pirmd., 2023. g. 18. dec., plkst. 10:55 — lietotājs Federico Leva (Nemo) (<nemowiki@gmail.commailto:nemowiki@gmail.com>) rakstīja: Il 14/12/23 21:21, Harry Mitchell ha scritto:
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Thanks for checking! I'm interested in joining, especially if it's on August 6 or 11 (to minimise chances of conflicts with other last-minute side events). The page https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Related_events doesn't exist yet, it would be good to create it as soon as some tentative date is chosen.
Federico _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
And others still feel depressed each time they are reminded of their visit to that very place where their family members were doomed to die. And might get confused by this thread as they connect “excursion” more with a sightseeing trip than a way through hell what it had been back in these days but would likely be also for today's visitors. Can we please very sensitive with this topic? Thank you! Best,DerHexer Am Montag, 18. Dezember 2023, 10:09:59 MEZ hat Mārtiņš Bruņenieks martinsb@gmail.com Folgendes geschrieben:
Hello, For these planning to go — it can be an emotional experience, plan a whole day for it. It takes a while to visit (there are 2 locations) and you might have a depressing feeling for the rest of the day until you regain faith in humanity. This is why others recommend it as an individual experience.
Mārtiņš
pirmd., 2023. g. 18. dec., plkst. 10:55 — lietotājs Federico Leva (Nemo) (nemowiki@gmail.com) rakstīja:
Il 14/12/23 21:21, Harry Mitchell ha scritto:
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Thanks for checking! I'm interested in joining, especially if it's on August 6 or 11 (to minimise chances of conflicts with other last-minute side events). The page https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2024:Related_events doesn't exist yet, it would be good to create it as soon as some tentative date is chosen.
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Just bumping this in case anyone is interested. I haven't booked anything yet but if anyone might be interested in a trip to Auschwitz and might like company, feel free to reach out on- or off-list.
I fully understand if there are folks who would prefer not to have company or would rather spend their time on something more cheerful.
Also, I'd be grateful for any advice from locals if they have any!
Best, Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 19:21 Harry Mitchell, hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I'm interested too.
Camelia
On Sun, May 19, 2024, 22:17 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I’m down for 2. Sent from my iPhone
On May 19, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Camelia Boban camelia.boban@gmail.com wrote:
I'm interested too.
Camelia
On Sun, May 19, 2024, 22:17 Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.commailto:meta.sj@gmail.com> wrote: Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.commailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com> wrote: That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, <pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.commailto:pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT
--
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Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzikhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.commailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com> napisał(a): Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I am interested, of course. Probably dozens and dozens of other participants as well. Just hope to be able to latch onta a group...
Gabe
On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 00:30, Pastor Cary Bass-Deschenes < pastorcary@outlook.com> wrote:
I’m down for 2. Sent from my iPhone
On May 19, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Camelia Boban camelia.boban@gmail.com wrote:
I'm interested too.
Camelia
On Sun, May 19, 2024, 22:17 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Count me in. Thanks!
Best regards, Diamantino
On Mon, 20/05/2024 at 07:33 Gabriel Thullen gabriel@thullen.com wrote:
I am interested, of course. Probably dozens and dozens of other participants as well. Just hope to be able to latch onta a group...
Gabe
On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 00:30, Pastor Cary Bass-Deschenes < pastorcary@outlook.com> wrote:
I’m down for 2. Sent from my iPhone
On May 19, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Camelia Boban camelia.boban@gmail.com wrote:
I'm interested too.
Camelia
On Sun, May 19, 2024, 22:17 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I'm interested. Thanks. -Rosie
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 1:17 PM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Me 2 Laiv g
On Mon, May 20, 2024, 06:33 Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight < rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm interested. Thanks. -Rosie
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 1:17 PM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Is there already a tentative date for this? I would like to go too if it is within my stay :-)
On Mon, 20 May 2024, 5:34 pm Laliv Gal, laliv.gal@gmail.com wrote:
Me 2 Laiv g
On Mon, May 20, 2024, 06:33 Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight < rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm interested. Thanks. -Rosie
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 1:17 PM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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I would be interested as well. I’ll arrive in Katowice on 04. Aug an d leave on 11. Aug in the morning
Stefan Fussan (he/him)
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Von: Vanj Padilla vanjdpadilla@gmail.com Gesendet: Montag, 20. Mai 2024 16:19 An: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com Betreff: [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?
Is there already a tentative date for this? I would like to go too if it is within my stay :-)
On Mon, 20 May 2024, 5:34 pm Laliv Gal, <laliv.gal@gmail.com mailto:laliv.gal@gmail.com > wrote:
Me 2
Laiv g
On Mon, May 20, 2024, 06:33 Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com mailto:rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com > wrote:
I'm interested. Thanks. -Rosie
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 1:17 PM Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com mailto:meta.sj@gmail.com > wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com mailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com > wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, <pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com mailto:pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com > wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell <hjmwiki@gmail.com mailto:hjmwiki@gmail.com > napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best,
Harry
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Hi Everyone
I know you are all adults and free to decide on what you do, but I would like to reiterate what I said when this first came to the fore;
*this is one place where it would be better to make yourown arrangements as you[Harry] said it has a terrible history. This is oneplace that's best left to the individual, I'm not even sure I wouldwant to share experiencing that place with other people I dont know.On a personal level. I'd hate to have to deal with a person who tookthe tour not knowing the horrors of the place*
Wikimania is about having fun, learning new things, and sharing your experiences.
Do not take the decision to go lightly, this is not some adventure into history through the eyes of a curated museum. This is walking into a frozen point of time where the worst depths of humanity you can ever imagine prevailed.
I know everyone here enjoys reading, please take some time to read about the experiences of others who have taken this journey, this is no happy place, no place for a bit of fun. You are not being invited to hear a story of the past, you are visiting a solem site that remains as and where it was built to remind all who visit to bear witness to the horrors of man.
If you chose to do so, do it afterwards, after you have enjoyed Wikimania, written your reports and filled in the surveys, because the COT & CEE don't deserve that place to be colouring your thoughts about Wikimania.
On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 22:19, Vanj Padilla vanjdpadilla@gmail.com wrote:
Is there already a tentative date for this? I would like to go too if it is within my stay :-)
On Mon, 20 May 2024, 5:34 pm Laliv Gal, laliv.gal@gmail.com wrote:
Me 2 Laiv g
On Mon, May 20, 2024, 06:33 Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight < rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm interested. Thanks. -Rosie
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 1:17 PM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
> Hi all, > > I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I > don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any > thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to > Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close? > > I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing > but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile. > > Best, > Harry > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org >
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Of course. Please nobody feel pressured or obligated to go. This is something I've been considering for years and I'm only doing it in the same trip as Wikimania for budgetary reasons. I plan to go regardless of whether any other Wikimedians are going at the same time but thought I'd ask in case others here had similar thoughts and would prefer to travel with company.
Harry
On Tue, 21 May 2024, 13:19 Gnangarra, gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Everyone
I know you are all adults and free to decide on what you do, but I would like to reiterate what I said when this first came to the fore;
*this is one place where it would be better to make yourown arrangements as you[Harry] said it has a terrible history. This is oneplace that's best left to the individual, I'm not even sure I wouldwant to share experiencing that place with other people I dont know.On a personal level. I'd hate to have to deal with a person who tookthe tour not knowing the horrors of the place*
Wikimania is about having fun, learning new things, and sharing your experiences.
Do not take the decision to go lightly, this is not some adventure into history through the eyes of a curated museum. This is walking into a frozen point of time where the worst depths of humanity you can ever imagine prevailed.
I know everyone here enjoys reading, please take some time to read about the experiences of others who have taken this journey, this is no happy place, no place for a bit of fun. You are not being invited to hear a story of the past, you are visiting a solem site that remains as and where it was built to remind all who visit to bear witness to the horrors of man.
If you chose to do so, do it afterwards, after you have enjoyed Wikimania, written your reports and filled in the surveys, because the COT & CEE don't deserve that place to be colouring your thoughts about Wikimania.
On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 22:19, Vanj Padilla vanjdpadilla@gmail.com wrote:
Is there already a tentative date for this? I would like to go too if it is within my stay :-)
On Mon, 20 May 2024, 5:34 pm Laliv Gal, laliv.gal@gmail.com wrote:
Me 2 Laiv g
On Mon, May 20, 2024, 06:33 Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight < rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm interested. Thanks. -Rosie
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 1:17 PM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
🌍🌏🌎🌑
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made.
If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could coordinate plans.
Harry
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has > decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan > to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are > always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests. > > We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months > leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the > Wikimania-wiki! > > Best, > > *Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT* > > -- > > > Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him) > > Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead > > Wikimedia Europe Board Member > > Wikipedia Administrator > > User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik > > pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com > napisał(a): > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I >> don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any >> thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to >> Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close? >> >> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply >> distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile. >> >> Best, >> Harry >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org >> > > > -- > *User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik* > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Just FYI, my partner and I have booked the 1145 tour on the Tuesday. There were nine tickets left when I booked. If anyone wants to join us or just travel together to/from Katowice they're quite welcome.
Harry
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 1:41 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Of course. Please nobody feel pressured or obligated to go. This is something I've been considering for years and I'm only doing it in the same trip as Wikimania for budgetary reasons. I plan to go regardless of whether any other Wikimedians are going at the same time but thought I'd ask in case others here had similar thoughts and would prefer to travel with company.
Harry
On Tue, 21 May 2024, 13:19 Gnangarra, gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Everyone
I know you are all adults and free to decide on what you do, but I would like to reiterate what I said when this first came to the fore;
*this is one place where it would be better to make yourown arrangements as you[Harry] said it has a terrible history. This is oneplace that's best left to the individual, I'm not even sure I wouldwant to share experiencing that place with other people I dont know.On a personal level. I'd hate to have to deal with a person who tookthe tour not knowing the horrors of the place*
Wikimania is about having fun, learning new things, and sharing your experiences.
Do not take the decision to go lightly, this is not some adventure into history through the eyes of a curated museum. This is walking into a frozen point of time where the worst depths of humanity you can ever imagine prevailed.
I know everyone here enjoys reading, please take some time to read about the experiences of others who have taken this journey, this is no happy place, no place for a bit of fun. You are not being invited to hear a story of the past, you are visiting a solem site that remains as and where it was built to remind all who visit to bear witness to the horrors of man.
If you chose to do so, do it afterwards, after you have enjoyed Wikimania, written your reports and filled in the surveys, because the COT & CEE don't deserve that place to be colouring your thoughts about Wikimania.
On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 22:19, Vanj Padilla vanjdpadilla@gmail.com wrote:
Is there already a tentative date for this? I would like to go too if it is within my stay :-)
On Mon, 20 May 2024, 5:34 pm Laliv Gal, laliv.gal@gmail.com wrote:
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On Mon, May 20, 2024, 06:33 Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight < rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm interested. Thanks. -Rosie
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 1:17 PM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Please count me interested. It is a short drive, perhaps we could arrange a van or large car. Perhaps someone who knows the director could start a thread w/ them and inquire about doing something a day post-mania?
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On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 2:22 PM Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
> That's absolutely fair enough. Thank you for your answer. I wasn't > looking for one answer or another; it's something I wanted to do and didn't > want to pre-empt anything if plans were being made. > > If anyone is interested in going with a group of Wikimedians, please > feel free to get in touch with me. If there are a few of us we could > coordinate plans. > > Harry > > On Thu, 14 Dec 2023, 13:13 Wikipedysta Nadzik, < > pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has >> decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan >> to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are >> always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests. >> >> We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months >> leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the >> Wikimania-wiki! >> >> Best, >> >> *Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT* >> >> -- >> >> >> Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him) >> >> Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead >> >> Wikimedia Europe Board Member >> >> Wikipedia Administrator >> >> User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik >> >> pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com >> napisał(a): >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I >>> don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any >>> thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to >>> Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close? >>> >>> I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply >>> distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile. >>> >>> Best, >>> Harry >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> *User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik* >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Hi to everyone from Slovenia !
Excuse me, but mistaken Prague to be in Poland is a bit of nonsense....Is not just one of the most beautiful cities in the World, is capital of the well-known country.
Sašo Nožič Serini, BS.C ISOC.SI WIKI.SI DIGIT-AGRO
V pet., 15. dec. 2023, 05:34 je oseba ella Marie < vololonirinamarieella@gmail.com> napisala:
Hi,
Thank you for the informations.
Best,
Envoyé depuis mon téléphone
-------- Message original -------- De : Wikipedysta Nadzik pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com Date : jeu. 14 déc. 2023 16:10 À : "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" < wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Objet : [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
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Hi Sašo,
Ah yes, sorry for it. You should be proud of, too bad the Wikimania isn't happening in Prague but elsewhere. I would always think of Prague and considering to visit whenever possible. It's indeed a beautiful city by any chance.
Thanks anyway.
handoko -
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 15:49 UNYSAS unysas@gmail.com wrote:
Hi to everyone from Slovenia !
Excuse me, but mistaken Prague to be in Poland is a bit of nonsense....Is not just one of the most beautiful cities in the World, is capital of the well-known country.
Sašo Nožič Serini, BS.C ISOC.SI WIKI.SI DIGIT-AGRO
V pet., 15. dec. 2023, 05:34 je oseba ella Marie < vololonirinamarieella@gmail.com> napisala:
Hi,
Thank you for the informations.
Best,
Envoyé depuis mon téléphone
-------- Message original -------- De : Wikipedysta Nadzik pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com Date : jeu. 14 déc. 2023 16:10 À : "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" < wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Objet : [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Hi, Handoko !
Thx for answer. To made a mistakes is a human, so Its forgiven...
Be well,
See you around WikiWorld:)
Sašo
V pet., 15. dec. 2023, 10:49 je oseba Handoko Suwono handokos27@gmail.com napisala:
Hi Sašo,
Ah yes, sorry for it. You should be proud of, too bad the Wikimania isn't happening in Prague but elsewhere. I would always think of Prague and considering to visit whenever possible. It's indeed a beautiful city by any chance.
Thanks anyway.
handoko -
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 15:49 UNYSAS unysas@gmail.com wrote:
Hi to everyone from Slovenia !
Excuse me, but mistaken Prague to be in Poland is a bit of nonsense....Is not just one of the most beautiful cities in the World, is capital of the well-known country.
Sašo Nožič Serini, BS.C ISOC.SI WIKI.SI DIGIT-AGRO
V pet., 15. dec. 2023, 05:34 je oseba ella Marie < vololonirinamarieella@gmail.com> napisala:
Hi,
Thank you for the informations.
Best,
Envoyé depuis mon téléphone
-------- Message original -------- De : Wikipedysta Nadzik pl.wikipedia.nadzik@gmail.com Date : jeu. 14 déc. 2023 16:10 À : "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" < wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Objet : [Wikimania-l] Re: Excursion to Auschwitz?
Hi,
For both logistical and cost reasons, the Core Organizing Team has decided to focus on side events inside the city of Katowice. We do not plan to organize any activities outside of the city. However, attendees are always free to self-organize tours and excursions based on their interests.
We expect to coordinate and announce our side events in the months leading up to Wikimania, so keep your eye out for that on the Wikimania-wiki!
Best,
*Maciej on behalf of the Wikimania 2024 COT*
--
Maciej Artur Nadzikiewicz (He/him)
Wikimania 2024 Poland – Team Lead
Wikimedia Europe Board Member
Wikipedia Administrator
User:Nadzik https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik
pt., 8 gru 2023 o 22:56 Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Hi Harry
I know the COT's are always looking at options and excursions around Wikimania but this is one place where it would be better to make your own arrangements as you said it has a terrible history. This is one place that's best left to the individual, I'm not even sure I would want to share experiencing that place with other people I dont know. On a personal level. I'd hate to have to deal with a person who took the tour not knowing the horrors of the place and having to address that as a T&S person. As all these organised side events also need critical numbers and some one two organisor best to focus on local with minimal issues from attending
On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 at 05:56, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Gnangarra 'ngany dabakarn koorliny arn boodjera dardon nlangan Nyungar koortabodjar'
Well, actually the CEO of Auschwitz Museum is our fellow Wikipedian, who edit Wikipedia since 2004 and he suggested to organize something Wikipedia related on numerous occasions. Museum has a very well equiped Education Center:
https://www.auschwitz.org/en/education/
with multiple activities devoted to specific groups of people - so I guess arranging something Wikipedia specific - outside the official Wikimania program - before or after Wikimania - could be quite possible - and I guess there might be quite a number of people interested.
czw., 14 gru 2023 o 14:17 Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi Harry
I know the COT's are always looking at options and excursions around Wikimania but this is one place where it would be better to make your own arrangements as you said it has a terrible history. This is one place that's best left to the individual, I'm not even sure I would want to share experiencing that place with other people I dont know. On a personal level. I'd hate to have to deal with a person who took the tour not knowing the horrors of the place and having to address that as a T&S person. As all these organised side events also need critical numbers and some one two organisor best to focus on local with minimal issues from attending
On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 at 05:56, Harry Mitchell hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't
want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but
I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
Best, Harry _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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By train!?
On Sat, 9 Dec 2023, 8:56 am Harry Mitchell, hjmwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I'm sure the organisers have a lot on their plate right now so I don't want to add any unnecessary pressure, I was just wondering if any thought had been given to an organised excursion of Wikimedians to Auschwitz during Wikimania as Krakow seems reasonably close?
I know this is a sensitive topic and likely to be deeply distressing but I'm sure many of us would find it worthwhile.
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