I can confirm that he is here. He's even giving a talk about the EU project at sunday afternoon :-)
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Hi Raul,
I'm interested in talking about this topic. Do you know about the EU policy project? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/16/our-man-in-brussels-dimitar-dimitrov/
I think Dimi is in Wikimania, but unfortunately I haven't meet him yet.
Micru
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Raul Veede raul.veede@gmail.com wrote: A short clarification:
I did NOT mean to set up an organization of European chapters.
It's just that on a recent trip to European Commission I noticed that the coverage of EU on wikiprojects is surprisingly lousy, yet it influences millions of people and could be really important. A usual article on a multimillion dollar program of EU is only present on English and French Wikipedias, has no sources, doesn't mention implementation, media coverage or influence, and dates from 2007 or 2009. Fairly, it sucks. But it doesn't have to be like that.
EU institutions aren't any good in spreading neutral and objective information directly to the people whose lives they influence, so everything goes through the filters of local politicians and media which all too often have their own agenda. (That's why there's a monthly panic about "EU forbidding this or that".) To be honest, we're much better at communication than the EU professionals are. So, maybe we could cooperate.
I'm not a missionary for this, I won't try to convince anyone. I'm already exhausted by my current work. But I'd like to hear if anyone else thinks we could (or should) do something about it.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Raul Veede raul.veede@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone interested in discussing a quite raw idea: a possible thorg for covering European Union in different Wikiprojects and languages? I'm not even absolutely sure it would be a good idea, or how it should be working, but I think it would be worth discussing.
I've already talked to some of us, so I hope they chime in and help us find a time slot - maybe sometime tonight, before people start to leave.
Raul WMEE
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Yes, I know and initially, we were considering having a chat with Dimi and Nicole about it. I just thought we could grab a chance to draw a larger crowd.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Tobias Lutzi toblu@gmx.net wrote:
I can confirm that he is here. He's even giving a talk about the EU project at sunday afternoon :-)
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-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- Von: David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com Datum: An: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" < wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Betreff: Re: [Wikimania-l] WMEU
Hi Raul,
I'm interested in talking about this topic. Do you know about the EU policy project? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/16/our-man-in-brussels-dimitar-dimitrov/
I think Dimi is in Wikimania, but unfortunately I haven't meet him yet.
Micru
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Raul Veede raul.veede@gmail.com wrote:
A short clarification:
I did NOT mean to set up an organization of European chapters.
It's just that on a recent trip to European Commission I noticed that the coverage of EU on wikiprojects is surprisingly lousy, yet it influences millions of people and could be really important. A usual article on a multimillion dollar program of EU is only present on English and French Wikipedias, has no sources, doesn't mention implementation, media coverage or influence, and dates from 2007 or 2009. Fairly, it sucks. But it doesn't have to be like that.
EU institutions aren't any good in spreading neutral and objective information directly to the people whose lives they influence, so everything goes through the filters of local politicians and media which all too often have their own agenda. (That's why there's a monthly panic about "EU forbidding this or that".) To be honest, we're much better at communication than the EU professionals are. So, maybe we could cooperate.
I'm not a missionary for this, I won't try to convince anyone. I'm already exhausted by my current work. But I'd like to hear if anyone else thinks we could (or should) do something about it.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Raul Veede raul.veede@gmail.comwrote:
Is anyone interested in discussing a quite raw idea: a possible thorg for covering European Union in different Wikiprojects and languages? I'm not even absolutely sure it would be a good idea, or how it should be working, but I think it would be worth discussing.
I've already talked to some of us, so I hope they chime in and help us find a time slot - maybe sometime tonight, before people start to leave.
Raul WMEE
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Hey guys!
I'd be more than happy to grab a beer with you and talk about Wikimedia and the EU.
Meet under the big screen (food court) at 18:00?
Dimi
On 10.08.2013, at 13:56, Raul Veede raul.veede@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I know and initially, we were considering having a chat with Dimi and Nicole about it. I just thought we could grab a chance to draw a larger crowd.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Tobias Lutzi toblu@gmx.net wrote: I can confirm that he is here. He's even giving a talk about the EU project at sunday afternoon :-)
-- TL
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- Von: David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com Datum: An: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: Re: [Wikimania-l] WMEU
Hi Raul,
I'm interested in talking about this topic. Do you know about the EU policy project? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/16/our-man-in-brussels-dimitar-dimitrov/
I think Dimi is in Wikimania, but unfortunately I haven't meet him yet.
Micru
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Raul Veede raul.veede@gmail.com wrote: A short clarification:
I did NOT mean to set up an organization of European chapters.
It's just that on a recent trip to European Commission I noticed that the coverage of EU on wikiprojects is surprisingly lousy, yet it influences millions of people and could be really important. A usual article on a multimillion dollar program of EU is only present on English and French Wikipedias, has no sources, doesn't mention implementation, media coverage or influence, and dates from 2007 or 2009. Fairly, it sucks. But it doesn't have to be like that.
EU institutions aren't any good in spreading neutral and objective information directly to the people whose lives they influence, so everything goes through the filters of local politicians and media which all too often have their own agenda. (That's why there's a monthly panic about "EU forbidding this or that".) To be honest, we're much better at communication than the EU professionals are. So, maybe we could cooperate.
I'm not a missionary for this, I won't try to convince anyone. I'm already exhausted by my current work. But I'd like to hear if anyone else thinks we could (or should) do something about it.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Raul Veede raul.veede@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone interested in discussing a quite raw idea: a possible thorg for covering European Union in different Wikiprojects and languages? I'm not even absolutely sure it would be a good idea, or how it should be working, but I think it would be worth discussing.
I've already talked to some of us, so I hope they chime in and help us find a time slot - maybe sometime tonight, before people start to leave.
Raul WMEE
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18h00 under the big screen. good idea. see you there later.
Jens
2013/8/10 Dimitar Dimitrov dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com
Hey guys!
I'd be more than happy to grab a beer with you and talk about Wikimedia and the EU.
Meet under the big screen (food court) at 18:00?
Dimi
On 10.08.2013, at 13:56, Raul Veede raul.veede@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I know and initially, we were considering having a chat with Dimi and Nicole about it. I just thought we could grab a chance to draw a larger crowd.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Tobias Lutzi < toblu@gmx.net toblu@gmx.net> wrote:
I can confirm that he is here. He's even giving a talk about the EU project at sunday afternoon :-)
-- TL
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- Von: David Cuenca < dacuetu@gmail.comdacuetu@gmail.com> Datum: An: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Betreff: Re: [Wikimania-l] WMEU
Hi Raul,
I'm interested in talking about this topic. Do you know about the EU policy project? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/16/our-man-in-brussels-dimitar-dimitrov/ https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/16/our-man-in-brussels-dimitar-dimitrov/
I think Dimi is in Wikimania, but unfortunately I haven't meet him yet.
Micru
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Raul Veede < raul.veede@gmail.com raul.veede@gmail.com> wrote:
A short clarification:
I did NOT mean to set up an organization of European chapters.
It's just that on a recent trip to European Commission I noticed that the coverage of EU on wikiprojects is surprisingly lousy, yet it influences millions of people and could be really important. A usual article on a multimillion dollar program of EU is only present on English and French Wikipedias, has no sources, doesn't mention implementation, media coverage or influence, and dates from 2007 or 2009. Fairly, it sucks. But it doesn't have to be like that.
EU institutions aren't any good in spreading neutral and objective information directly to the people whose lives they influence, so everything goes through the filters of local politicians and media which all too often have their own agenda. (That's why there's a monthly panic about "EU forbidding this or that".) To be honest, we're much better at communication than the EU professionals are. So, maybe we could cooperate.
I'm not a missionary for this, I won't try to convince anyone. I'm already exhausted by my current work. But I'd like to hear if anyone else thinks we could (or should) do something about it.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Raul Veede < raul.veede@gmail.com raul.veede@gmail.com> wrote:
Is anyone interested in discussing a quite raw idea: a possible thorg for covering European Union in different Wikiprojects and languages? I'm not even absolutely sure it would be a good idea, or how it should be working, but I think it would be worth discussing.
I've already talked to some of us, so I hope they chime in and help us find a time slot - maybe sometime tonight, before people start to leave.
Raul WMEE
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18 it is. Seeya.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Jens Best jens.best@wikimedia.de wrote:
18h00 under the big screen. good idea. see you there later.
Jens
2013/8/10 Dimitar Dimitrov dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com
Hey guys!
I'd be more than happy to grab a beer with you and talk about Wikimedia and the EU.
Meet under the big screen (food court) at 18:00?
Dimi
On 10.08.2013, at 13:56, Raul Veede raul.veede@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I know and initially, we were considering having a chat with Dimi and Nicole about it. I just thought we could grab a chance to draw a larger crowd.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Tobias Lutzi < toblu@gmx.net toblu@gmx.net> wrote:
I can confirm that he is here. He's even giving a talk about the EU project at sunday afternoon :-)
-- TL
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- Von: David Cuenca < dacuetu@gmail.comdacuetu@gmail.com> Datum: An: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Betreff: Re: [Wikimania-l] WMEU
Hi Raul,
I'm interested in talking about this topic. Do you know about the EU policy project? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_policy https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/16/our-man-in-brussels-dimitar-dimitrov/ https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/07/16/our-man-in-brussels-dimitar-dimitrov/
I think Dimi is in Wikimania, but unfortunately I haven't meet him yet.
Micru
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Raul Veede < raul.veede@gmail.com raul.veede@gmail.com> wrote:
A short clarification:
I did NOT mean to set up an organization of European chapters.
It's just that on a recent trip to European Commission I noticed that the coverage of EU on wikiprojects is surprisingly lousy, yet it influences millions of people and could be really important. A usual article on a multimillion dollar program of EU is only present on English and French Wikipedias, has no sources, doesn't mention implementation, media coverage or influence, and dates from 2007 or 2009. Fairly, it sucks. But it doesn't have to be like that.
EU institutions aren't any good in spreading neutral and objective information directly to the people whose lives they influence, so everything goes through the filters of local politicians and media which all too often have their own agenda. (That's why there's a monthly panic about "EU forbidding this or that".) To be honest, we're much better at communication than the EU professionals are. So, maybe we could cooperate.
I'm not a missionary for this, I won't try to convince anyone. I'm already exhausted by my current work. But I'd like to hear if anyone else thinks we could (or should) do something about it.
Raul
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Raul Veede < raul.veede@gmail.com raul.veede@gmail.com> wrote:
Is anyone interested in discussing a quite raw idea: a possible thorg for covering European Union in different Wikiprojects and languages? I'm not even absolutely sure it would be a good idea, or how it should be working, but I think it would be worth discussing.
I've already talked to some of us, so I hope they chime in and help us find a time slot - maybe sometime tonight, before people start to leave.
Raul WMEE
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