Hi all,
I’ve been on this list since 2012 (Wikimania Hongkong) and I rarely comment,
but I’ll make a exception. When I saw the first email from Mina, I had a
hard time assuming good faith - it reproduced anti-trans talking points which
are, for the most part, hypothetical, with few or no actual instances of such
behaviour reported. This initial impression has now hardened into near-certainty
after the longish Kulturkampf style posting this morning.
I don’t think the concrete problem brought up is significant (as we all know,
by far the most sexual harassment happens in families and among acquaintances,
followed by the workplace). Harassment by openly trans people in public places
is a non-problem.
I also don’t think this list is a suitable place to discuss the larger topic
of Science-based medicine, book reviews, and NPOV on Wikipedia.
Have a great Wikimania!
Bye,
Stephan
On 29. Jun 2023, at 14:37, zinkloss(a)gmail.com wrote:
In the light of the posts by Mina Theofilatou, could the list admins take action to
either ban the use of this list by Mina or moderate all future posts in line with the UCoC
and TCoC?
The facts are that in these posts:
24 June:
Mina presented as a "valid concern" for Wikimania that there have been
incidents of trans women harassing women at events. This promotes that myth that trans
women are more dangerous than anyone else.
29 June:
Mina promoted the myth that there is a "era of self-identification", where
trans women might "exits the bathroom stall with his penis in his hand" which
spreads fear of trans women and attempts to normalize the idea that trans women are
exposing penises - and it's normal to call trans women men, so it's normal to
misgender trans women if you feel like it.
Mina attacked trans men using myths about fear of their menstruating. Mina derided the
idea of respecting trans people by presenting her clearly transphobic views as
self-evident "common decency", therefore making everyone genuinely respectful of
LGBTQIA inclusion outside of common decency.
Hopefully after these long confessional emails from Mina, no Wikimedia funded events will
be hosting Mina or her unnamed friend who is irrationally frightened of trans women. This
would be perfectly in
line with Wikimedia event and Wikimania safe space policies. I recommend we also remove
this email list platform as a way for Mina to permanently publish and promote transphobic
myths.
As a reminder, persistently avoiding calling trans women "trans women" or trans
men "trans men" by using peculiar terms like AMAB, AFAB, MTF, born male,
"males who identify as women", is itself an expression of transphobia. It is a
sure sign that someone has spent far too long on anti-LGBTQ forums.
Reference
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org…
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