Just to give you some background on the issue - There is currently an aggressive campaign by certain pro-Palestinian groups to boycott Israel. The campaigners are well organized and they will probably continue to send messages to this mailing list. The campaign is political, however it is not supported by any government, nor is it supported by the Palestinian Authority or any of the moderate Palestinian organizations. After about four years of growing cooperation between Israelis and Palestinians (despite the remaining disagreements, which are hard to resolve), there are people and organizations who try to pour fuel on the extinguishing fire. Unfortunately, they do not respect this forum and its participants.
I would also like to note that when Alexandria was rightfully chosen to host Wikimania (and its team did a wonderful work), there were Israelis among the bid team and the sponsors. The question of the Arab-Israeli conflict was never raised and it was deemed totally irrelevant. When Wikimania was held in Taiwan, I personally called the Taiwanese representations in Tel Aviv and Amman to check if they can issue a visa to an Egyptian citizen who wanted to participate and had difficulties as there was no Taiwanese representation in Egypt.
I hope this is the last message in this subject.
Dror K
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 09:03:37 +0700 From: Evangeline Han evanbejin@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Boycott Wikimania 2011 To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: AANLkTimskah+3u8LKmdH_VtjfqGa5Fb6ArhH8vVwCboo@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hey guys,
Just a thought. If you want to boycott Wikimania, there is no need to announce it on the list. We're not interested if you've already made up your mind to boycott. It's pretty immature to boycott and then announce it to everyone... unless you're canvassing...?
--Evangeline
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Alejandro Farah farah@astro.unam.mx wrote:
I agree with the boycott... I am sorry about Palestinians, but more sorry about human stupidity...
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Mohamed Mostafa ouda <mmustafa8@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi All
I Also decided to boycott of Wikimania 2011 due to Israel's brutal politics against Palestinians .
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Anonyme cautious2@gmail.com wrote:
But fine, while you're there, think about the oppression that the people of Gaza are under...
Have a fine time
C
Le 2011-03-31 ? 17:38, Gerard Meijssen a ?crit :
Hoi. I am really happy that Haifa will not be missing among all the Wikimanias I will be at. I will be happy to meet many of my friends and I will drink in Haifa to absent friends. I hope we will have great streaming so that you can get an impression of how awesome Wikimania is. Thanks, GerardM
On 31 March 2011 23:08, Anonyme cautious2@gmail.com wrote:
I decided to do a complete boycott of Wikimania 2011 due to Israel's politics and the situation in the Gaza Strip and the illegal colonization
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I don't want to get into this useless debate, but I have minor corrections:
there were Israelis among the bid team and the sponsors.
There were no Israelis on the bidding team.
The question of the Arab-Israeli conflict was never raised and it was deemed totally irrelevant.
That's not true, there were questions raised about the safety of Israelis in Egypt and Egypt's attitude towards Jews, and in the greater context of the same problem (politicizing Wikimania), there was a huge storm raised about Human rights record of Egypt, Dictatorship rule in Egypt, treatment of women, LGBTs rights in Egypt, etc, etc.. The discussion spanned meta, irc and mailing lists. So, if you are getting only a couple of boycott canvass messages every now and then, you're lucky :)
Hiya,
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Muhammad Yahia shipmaster@gmail.com wrote:
I don't want to get into this useless debate, but I have minor corrections:
there were Israelis among the bid team and the sponsors.
There were no Israelis on the bidding team.
True, Dror might want to say in jury team. He and I served then as jurors, and I assure you jury team examined and discussed many aspects of each bids in details, but each arguments were purely intended if it would work well for our mission, spreading free knowledge and then strengthening our community and movement aiming to realize that, political issues were out of our scope at all.
I hope and believe every other winning bid has been chosen in a same fashion as well this year host city.
See you fellow Wikimedians this summer,
The question of the Arab-Israeli conflict was never raised and it was deemed totally irrelevant.
That's not true, there were questions raised about the safety of Israelis in Egypt and Egypt's attitude towards Jews, and in the greater context of the same problem (politicizing Wikimania), there was a huge storm raised about Human rights record of Egypt, Dictatorship rule in Egypt, treatment of women, LGBTs rights in Egypt, etc, etc.. The discussion spanned meta, irc and mailing lists. So, if you are getting only a couple of boycott canvass messages every now and then, you're lucky :) -- Best Regards, Muhammad Yahia
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