Hi,
I received an email asking me to enter my registration code and travel information into a google spreadsheet page... is this email legit? Just want to be sure, sorry for my paranoia :)
Is this mandatory? For which purposes will it be used (e.g. specifically helping attendees who have problems with entry to Israel at the airport?)
Thanks, Tobias
Ps.: Please don't see this as an malicious inquiry, I'm just curious what this is about.
It's totally legit (it's supposed to go out from our OTRS address..).
The sole purpose is to collect statistics on when people are arriving into Israel, so we can plan our volunteer representation at the arrival hall at Ben Gurion airport.
It's not meant to solve specific problems people might have with clearing border control (or customs or anything like that).
And it's totally optional, not mandatory.
Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 19:41, church.of.emacs.ml <church.of.emacs.ml@ googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I received an email asking me to enter my registration code and travel information into a google spreadsheet page... is this email legit? Just want to be sure, sorry for my paranoia :)
Is this mandatory? For which purposes will it be used (e.g. specifically helping attendees who have problems with entry to Israel at the airport?)
Thanks, Tobias
Ps.: Please don't see this as an malicious inquiry, I'm just curious what this is about.
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Maybe for a next time: if you are collecting only info for statistics, it might be more helpful to ask as little information are you really want. If it is only for volunteer representation planning, then arrival time&date would have been sufficient, and the flight number wasn't necessary. By asking more information, you gave the impression that if anything would go wrong, you would proactively help. I understand of course this is nearly impossible, but well :)
Best, Lodewijk
2011/7/12 Harel Cain harel.cain@gmail.com
It's totally legit (it's supposed to go out from our OTRS address..).
The sole purpose is to collect statistics on when people are arriving into Israel, so we can plan our volunteer representation at the arrival hall at Ben Gurion airport.
It's not meant to solve specific problems people might have with clearing border control (or customs or anything like that).
And it's totally optional, not mandatory.
Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 19:41, church.of.emacs.ml <church.of.emacs.ml@ googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I received an email asking me to enter my registration code and travel information into a google spreadsheet page... is this email legit? Just want to be sure, sorry for my paranoia :)
Is this mandatory? For which purposes will it be used (e.g. specifically helping attendees who have problems with entry to Israel at the airport?)
Thanks, Tobias
Ps.: Please don't see this as an malicious inquiry, I'm just curious what this is about.
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1. I didn't create that form. 2. We are control freaks :) 3. I think the reason behind asking for the flight number is we can track cancelled or delayed flights should we know about them. I agree that this is second priority, but I don't see that it hurts anyone...
Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 19:48, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Maybe for a next time: if you are collecting only info for statistics, it might be more helpful to ask as little information are you really want. If it is only for volunteer representation planning, then arrival time&date would have been sufficient, and the flight number wasn't necessary. By asking more information, you gave the impression that if anything would go wrong, you would proactively help. I understand of course this is nearly impossible, but well :)
Best, Lodewijk
2011/7/12 Harel Cain harel.cain@gmail.com
It's totally legit (it's supposed to go out from our OTRS address..).
The sole purpose is to collect statistics on when people are arriving into Israel, so we can plan our volunteer representation at the arrival hall at Ben Gurion airport.
It's not meant to solve specific problems people might have with clearing border control (or customs or anything like that).
And it's totally optional, not mandatory.
Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 19:41, church.of.emacs.ml <church.of.emacs.ml@ googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I received an email asking me to enter my registration code and travel information into a google spreadsheet page... is this email legit? Just want to be sure, sorry for my paranoia :)
Is this mandatory? For which purposes will it be used (e.g. specifically helping attendees who have problems with entry to Israel at the airport?)
Thanks, Tobias
Ps.: Please don't see this as an malicious inquiry, I'm just curious what this is about.
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3. Strong agree. You don't go to the airport to receive someone unless they tell you their flight number, do you? ;P Without the flight number, you can be waiting at the wrong gate, or even the wrong terminal! Contrary to what Lodewijk sees, I think it is necessary to ask for the flight number and doing so doesn't give the false impression that the reception team will proactively help solve immigration and customs problems.
2. Yes, you guys are the first ever Wikimania local team to have announced in advance what you'd do if there's a terrorist attack.
Deryck
On 13 July 2011 00:50, Harel Cain harel.cain@gmail.com wrote:
- I didn't create that form.
- We are control freaks :)
- I think the reason behind asking for the flight number is we can track
cancelled or delayed flights should we know about them. I agree that this is second priority, but I don't see that it hurts anyone...
Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 19:48, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Maybe for a next time: if you are collecting only info for statistics, it might be more helpful to ask as little information are you really want. If it is only for volunteer representation planning, then arrival time&date would have been sufficient, and the flight number wasn't necessary. By asking more information, you gave the impression that if anything would go wrong, you would proactively help. I understand of course this is nearly impossible, but well :)
Best, Lodewijk
2011/7/12 Harel Cain harel.cain@gmail.com
It's totally legit (it's supposed to go out from our OTRS address..).
The sole purpose is to collect statistics on when people are arriving into Israel, so we can plan our volunteer representation at the arrival hall at Ben Gurion airport.
It's not meant to solve specific problems people might have with clearing border control (or customs or anything like that).
And it's totally optional, not mandatory.
Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 19:41, church.of.emacs.ml <church.of.emacs.ml@ googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I received an email asking me to enter my registration code and travel information into a google spreadsheet page... is this email legit? Just want to be sure, sorry for my paranoia :)
Is this mandatory? For which purposes will it be used (e.g. specifically helping attendees who have problems with entry to Israel at the airport?)
Thanks, Tobias
Ps.: Please don't see this as an malicious inquiry, I'm just curious what this is about.
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2. Did we?! Oh my, oh my...
Harel
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 20:13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
- Strong agree. You don't go to the airport to receive someone unless they
tell you their flight number, do you? ;P Without the flight number, you can be waiting at the wrong gate, or even the wrong terminal! Contrary to what Lodewijk sees, I think it is necessary to ask for the flight number and doing so doesn't give the false impression that the reception team will proactively help solve immigration and customs problems.
- Yes, you guys are the first ever Wikimania local team to have announced
in advance what you'd do if there's a terrorist attack.
Deryck
On 13 July 2011 00:50, Harel Cain harel.cain@gmail.com wrote:
- I didn't create that form.
- We are control freaks :)
- I think the reason behind asking for the flight number is we can track
cancelled or delayed flights should we know about them. I agree that this is second priority, but I don't see that it hurts anyone...
Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 19:48, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Maybe for a next time: if you are collecting only info for statistics, it might be more helpful to ask as little information are you really want. If it is only for volunteer representation planning, then arrival time&date would have been sufficient, and the flight number wasn't necessary. By asking more information, you gave the impression that if anything would go wrong, you would proactively help. I understand of course this is nearly impossible, but well :)
Best, Lodewijk
2011/7/12 Harel Cain harel.cain@gmail.com
It's totally legit (it's supposed to go out from our OTRS address..).
The sole purpose is to collect statistics on when people are arriving into Israel, so we can plan our volunteer representation at the arrival hall at Ben Gurion airport.
It's not meant to solve specific problems people might have with clearing border control (or customs or anything like that).
And it's totally optional, not mandatory.
Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 19:41, church.of.emacs.ml <church.of.emacs.ml@ googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I received an email asking me to enter my registration code and travel information into a google spreadsheet page... is this email legit? Just want to be sure, sorry for my paranoia :)
Is this mandatory? For which purposes will it be used (e.g. specifically helping attendees who have problems with entry to Israel at the airport?)
Thanks, Tobias
Ps.: Please don't see this as an malicious inquiry, I'm just curious what this is about.
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On 07/12/2011 06:44 PM, Harel Cain wrote:
It's totally legit (it's supposed to go out from our OTRS address..).
The sole purpose is to collect statistics on when people are arriving into Israel, so we can plan our volunteer representation at the arrival hall at Ben Gurion airport.
It's not meant to solve specific problems people might have with clearing border control (or customs or anything like that).
And it's totally optional, not mandatory.
Thanks for the quick response and confirmation!
Regards, Tobias
Ps.: Yes, the "from" field has the OTRS address, but since it is fairly trivial to fake it, I wanted to be sure.
Hm... I have *not* received any mail asking me to enter my travel info anywhere. should I be worried?
-- daniel
On 12.07.2011 18:41, church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
Hi,
I received an email asking me to enter my registration code and travel information into a google spreadsheet page... is this email legit? Just want to be sure, sorry for my paranoia :)
No :) I don't know why it didn't reach you. It was just so we can collect statistics on when most people are landing. It's fine if you or anyone else didn't fill that form.
There's also this wiki page you can use to coordinate with other fellow attendees your travel to and from Haifa: http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Attendees/Travel_Coordination
Harel Cain Wikimania 2011 local team
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:57, Daniel Kinzler daniel@brightbyte.de wrote:
Hm... I have *not* received any mail asking me to enter my travel info anywhere. should I be worried?
-- daniel
On 12.07.2011 18:41, church.of.emacs.ml wrote:
Hi,
I received an email asking me to enter my registration code and travel information into a google spreadsheet page... is this email legit? Just want to be sure, sorry for my paranoia :)
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