Hi Andy, Thank you for reaching out to us. We put general information, as Changi Airport has 4 different terminals and not everyone will arrive on the same terminals. We are preparing some information to help scholars during arrival. For anything related to scholarship, please kindly refer it to me rather than a public list as not every scholar will be comfortable sharing the information related to the accommodation. I will reply to you in a separate email regarding this matter. Thank you for your understanding. Regards, *Gisca Syalindri* Wikimania Scholarship Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 7:43 PM Bence Damokos &lt;bdamokos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

I got very detailed information from Google maps on how to get to my hotel, including where to change, which exit to take once I get off the train at the final destination, which direction to walk, etc and through the agency link that google map provided, I got the information on how much my trip will cost. On Sun, 6 Aug 2023, 1:43 pm Bence Damokos, &lt;bdamokos(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 15:08, &lt;jludlow(a)globaldial.com&gt; wrote: I was, as my original post implied ("the useful 'Scholar attendee Guide'... what I can't find in that document"), referring to the Park Royal where rooms ahve been booked for scholarship attendees. [...] Thank you. I know how to use Google. That is exactly what I have asked for. So far, no-one has given them -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Judlow, while I also don't appreciate spamming in my inbox (especially in the days just before the event when we get a lot of important information), I don't think your reaction was appropriate. Andy, the address of your hotel should be in the e-mail titled "Accomodation for Wikimania - Scholarship - Your name" coming from Gisca Syalindri. Cheers, niedz., 6 sie 2023 o 17:12 &lt;jludlow(a)globaldial.com&gt; napisał(a): -- *User:Nadzik <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nadzik>*

This is the kind of information one might reasonably expect for a well organised event. Cheers, P -----Original Message----- From: Andy Mabbett [mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk] Sent: 06 August 2023 16:38 To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) Subject: [Wikimania-l] Re: Arrival and travel to hotel On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 15:08, &lt;jludlow(a)globaldial.com&gt; wrote: I was, as my original post implied ("the useful 'Scholar attendee Guide'... what I can't find in that document"), referring to the Park Royal where rooms ahve been booked for scholarship attendees. name [...] Thank you. I know how to use Google. you That is exactly what I have asked for. So far, no-one has given them -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com

Dear all, A general note -- please remember that our peers and colleagues are working hard to organize this conference on behalf of the Wikimedia movement, and many volunteers and staff have been working on the event for a very long time. Please be kind to one another both here and at the event. Your conference organizers are entering the very most stressful time of conference planning right now - the week before the event! - and many of your fellow attendees will be going to Singapore and perhaps to Wikimania for the first time. So please be thoughtful and helpful in all of your messages and assume good faith of your colleagues. My other request for the Wikimania community is to please share helpful information on the wiki when you know or discover it. You can also share in other ways; in addition to this mailing list, there's also an active telegram channel that might be of interest to join: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2023:Attendees. Wikimania is a collaborative and participatory event and it will take all of us to make it a great experience. Thanks Lodewijk for your great reminder as well that each conference - and city! - is different. Let's be bold, collaborative and kind in building this event together. I can't wait to see many of you soon! Phoebe On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 3:42 PM effe iets anders &lt;effeietsanders(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

Hi Andy, With regards to the closest train station to alight for Park Royal Hotel on Beach Road, there are two, one slightly further than the other: Nicoll Highway MRT station (Circle line/Yellow, CC5) and Bugis MRT interchange (Downtown line/Blue|East-west line/Green, DT14/EW12). To travel to the hotel via the MRT train service, you will have to take the train from Changi Airport heading towards Tanah Merah MRT interchange. Pulling into Tenah Merah MRT interchange in the middle platform, you will have to alight and take the train going towards Tuas Link, Joo Koon, or Boon Lay MRT stations. The train going towards Tuas Link, Joo Koon, or Boon Lay stations should be on the left of the train when pulling into Tanah Merah station. Bugis MRT station is further from the hotel by a couple of hundred meters than Nicoll Highway MRT station. It is an underground station. However, it is on the line of the train service which you will be boarding at Tanah Merah station. Therefore no further transfer is required. If you take Exit B of the station, I suggest walking along Rochor Road, then Beach Road towards the hotel as there is currently road works at Ophir Road which may make the walking experience unpleasant along that road. To shorten your exposure to the hot weather above ground, I suggest walking towards Exit E or F instead, which will bring you to a mixed residence development, Duo located on Beach Road. As Exit E/F is in the middle of the development, I recommend that you ask a local for directions to the hotel, or at least Beach Road. Nicoll Highway MRT station is a second option. However, it is one that I don't recommend if you are using a luggage and dislike using overhead pedestrian bridges. Nicoll Highway MRT station requires a transfer at Paya Lebar MRT interchange, which is also on the East-west Line. At Paya Lebar MRT station, you will have to walk from the above ground platform where you will alight from the train from the airport, then proceed to the underground platform for the Circle line. Take the train service that is heading towards Dhoby Ghaut or Marina Bay MRT stations. Alight at Nicoll Highway MRT station and take Exit A. Walk onto the overhead bridge that will be right in front of you as that is the only way to get across the highway. There is an upriding escalator, and also a lift as well. Along the bridge, there is an exit, but that goes into the Concourse. Then there is another exit to the first floor. There should be escalators in both directions, and also a lift. Take this exit. Thereafter, walk along Java Road, then turn right on Beach Road towards the hotel. Robert -----Original Message----- From: Andy Mabbett &lt;andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk&gt; Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 5:06 AM To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) &lt;wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: [Wikimania-l] Re: Arrival and travel to hotel On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 20:41, effe iets anders &lt;effeietsanders(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Indeed so - and such information has also in previous years been generously provided by Wikimedia volunteers who were not Wikimania organizers, but who were local to the event. Nobody complained when such questions were asked on this list. An exemplary example is the thread archived here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org… I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I have no such expectations. The only pertinent expectation I have is that discourse on this and our other mailing lists will be conducted with more civility than I was shown today. Recent evidence suggests, sadly, otherwise. Apparently not; the links provided suggest a change of trains is required. I think my originally, carefully worded query was explicitly clear, as in the context of that query, which it quoted, was my follow-up. [Readers will note that it does not include a request for the location of any of the hotels to which I referred] Again, I have no expectations such as those to which you refer. My request was for "someone with local knowledge" to give an answer. [My only request to an organiser, when they said they would reply privately, was to do so here instead, so that others may benefit] _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org

Hi Andy, Perhaps you haven't been in Singapore before, so of course you will need any pertinent information to your questions. I am not local but happen to be in Singapore several times. Last I was there in 2015 for FOSSAsia as one of the speakers (before going to Manila for the same). I can assure you that Singapore is easy to go around and a foreigner friendly city, and it's not a big crowded city like perhaps other ASEAN cities such as Jakarta, KL, Bangkok or Manila. One caveat could be that Wikimania happens during a festive season in Singapore and so many concerts are coming this time of the year that escalates everything. Hope you are doing well and also have a festive moments during the event. Best, handoko - On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 17:27 Andy Mabbett &lt;andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk&gt; wrote:

Jludlow, your message below is unnecessary and unkind. I am putting your address on moderation. There will be many more messages on this list than normal during the conference, this week and next; if anyone doesn't wish to get them, you can unsubscribe or mute the list temporarily! And thanks for the additional directions Robert! I also find them very helpful :) best, Phoebe On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:05 AM &lt;jludlow(a)globaldial.com&gt; wrote:

Hi Folks, Sign to Wikimania chat first at https://t.me/wikimaniachat There is also Wikimania Social (for non-program related) at https://t.me/wikimaniasocial From there you can assess if a separate chat group is necessary or if the existing ones are just enough. Kind regards *Butch Bustria* Event Lead ESEAP Wikimania 2023 Core Organizing Team On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 8:21 PM L C &lt;zinkloss(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: