Dear all, 

A general note -- please remember that our peers and colleagues are working hard to organize this conference on behalf of the Wikimedia movement, and many volunteers and staff have been working on the event for a very long time. Please be kind to one another both here and at the event. Your conference organizers are entering the very most stressful time of conference planning right now - the week before the event! - and many of your fellow attendees will be going to Singapore and perhaps to Wikimania for the first time. So please be thoughtful and helpful in all of your messages and assume good faith of your colleagues.

My other request for the Wikimania community is to please share helpful information on the wiki when you know or discover it. You can also share in other ways; in addition to this mailing list, there's also an active telegram channel that might be of interest to join: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2023:Attendees. Wikimania is a collaborative and participatory event and it will take all of us to make it a great experience.

Thanks Lodewijk for your great reminder as well that each conference - and city! - is different. Let's be bold, collaborative and kind in building this event together. I can't wait to see many of you soon!
Phoebe

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 3:42 PM effe iets anders <effeietsanders@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Butch for the helpful information on the wiki. 

It sounds like there's some misalignment as to how much to guidance/detail to expect written out. In previous years, volunteer organizers went out of their way to describe in extreme detail how to get to the accommodation/venue, even with recorded video walkthroughs. That was great, but should not set an expectation for future organizers to do the same: it's hard enough to organize a conference like this, without meeting all these expectations. 

Whenever there are specific questions, it's of course always welcome to ask people - for example through this list. Perhaps the Rome2Rio link in the wiki page linked earlier will give you this kind of 'walking instructions' - but indeed entering the address in Google Maps may also be helpful. I can imagine that relying on live access to internet is a bit scary (will your phone work?) so looking into it in advance sounds helpful. It looks like a straight metro ride with a short walk along two streets. 

Andy, if there's anything specific that you need beyond that link, feel free to clarify what that is, and what gives you uncertainty about this. I'm going to assume that the MRT station inside the airport is easy to find, and that the walk is acceptable. If you do find information lacking on the wiki and you figure it out (with or without help), I hope you'll feel free to either edit the page, or suggest it on the talkpage as an improvement. 

Overall, I hope that as a community we can lower what we "expect" from the organizers to take care of - because the increasing list of things they have to arrange make it nearly impossible for future conferences to be organized in an affordable manner. 

Warmly,
Lodewijk

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 10:16 AM Peter Southwood <peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:
This is the kind of information one might reasonably expect for a well
organised event.
Cheers,
P

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Mabbett [mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk]
Sent: 06 August 2023 16:38
To: Wikimania general list (open subscription)
Subject: [Wikimania-l] Re: Arrival and travel to hotel

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 15:08, <jludlow@globaldial.com> wrote:
>
> There's more than one Park Royal in Singapore.

I was, as my original post implied ("the useful 'Scholar attendee
Guide'... what I can't find in that document"), referring to the Park
Royal where rooms ahve been booked for scholarship attendees.

> To find out which MRT station is nearest your hotel, google the hotel's
name
[...]
>It's not that hard.

Thank you. I know how to use Google.

> Also, in Singapore most people speak English, and are very polite. So if
you
> get lost you can ask for directions.

That is exactly what I have asked for. So far, no-one has given them

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