Dear Wikimania community,
There are currently two discussions on Meta which will have a fundamental impact on the technical logistics of all future Wikimania bids.
As many of you would know, working documents of Wikimania bids, such as letters of support and venue information, are conventionally uploaded to Meta locally because they don't come with a Commons-compatible free licence. However, currently there's no explicit "exemption doctrine policy" on Meta, so two discussions are ongoing, with the aim of deleting all Wikimania-related non-free files which have been uploaded in the past years[1], and to ban future uploads of non-free media to Meta including Wikimedia events' working documents[2].
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_deletion#All_files_in_Categ... [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Restrict_or_abolish_local_file_upl...
Since this would mean future Wikimania bids may not include copies of third-party working documents on Meta, these proposals will change the logistics of Wikimania bids completely. I therefore urge all of you to scrutinise the proposed changes and comment as appropriate.
Deryck WM2013 local team
PS. To those of you who also run chapters: the proposed changes will mean that chapter financial statements may not be uploaded to / will be deleted from WMF-hosted wikis since they're have an implicit no-derivative requirement.
Crossed to Wikimedia-l, see Deryck's e-mail below.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Wikimania community,
There are currently two discussions on Meta which will have a fundamental impact on the technical logistics of all future Wikimania bids.
As many of you would know, working documents of Wikimania bids, such as letters of support and venue information, are conventionally uploaded to Meta locally because they don't come with a Commons-compatible free licence. However, currently there's no explicit "exemption doctrine policy" on Meta, so two discussions are ongoing, with the aim of deleting all Wikimania-related non-free files which have been uploaded in the past years[1], and to ban future uploads of non-free media to Meta including Wikimedia events' working documents[2].
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_deletion#All_files_in_Categ... [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Restrict_or_abolish_local_file_upl...
Since this would mean future Wikimania bids may not include copies of third-party working documents on Meta, these proposals will change the logistics of Wikimania bids completely. I therefore urge all of you to scrutinise the proposed changes and comment as appropriate.
Deryck WM2013 local team
PS. To those of you who also run chapters: the proposed changes will mean that chapter financial statements may not be uploaded to / will be deleted from WMF-hosted wikis since they're have an implicit no-derivative requirement.
Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Following this discussion up, I've proposed an exemption doctrine policy for Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Exemption_doctrine_policy
On 29 May 2013 17:24, Nathan nawrich@gmail.com wrote:
Crossed to Wikimedia-l, see Deryck's e-mail below.
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Wikimania community,
There are currently two discussions on Meta which will have a fundamental impact on the technical logistics of all future Wikimania bids.
As many of you would know, working documents of Wikimania bids, such as letters of support and venue information, are conventionally uploaded to Meta locally because they don't come with a Commons-compatible free
licence.
However, currently there's no explicit "exemption doctrine policy" on
Meta,
so two discussions are ongoing, with the aim of deleting all Wikimania-related non-free files which have been uploaded in the past years[1], and to ban future uploads of non-free media to Meta including Wikimedia events' working documents[2].
[1]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_deletion#All_files_in_Categ...
[2]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Restrict_or_abolish_local_file_upl...
Since this would mean future Wikimania bids may not include copies of third-party working documents on Meta, these proposals will change the logistics of Wikimania bids completely. I therefore urge all of you to scrutinise the proposed changes and comment as appropriate.
Deryck WM2013 local team
PS. To those of you who also run chapters: the proposed changes will mean that chapter financial statements may not be uploaded to / will be
deleted
from WMF-hosted wikis since they're have an implicit no-derivative requirement.
Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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2013/5/29 Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com
PS. To those of you who also run chapters: the proposed changes will mean that chapter financial statements may not be uploaded to / will be deleted from WMF-hosted wikis since they're have an implicit no-derivative requirement.
just focusing on this particular one: I don't think this is necessarily true. Typically, you're free to make derivatives, as long as you don't give the impression they are the actual and official numbers. But you're usually free to copy the table and use in a presentation, report or otherwise in context; change it for your own purposes (i.e. with the numbers of a different chapter) etc - as long as you're clear and honest about what you're presenting.
Lodewijk
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