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Youngest editor?
by David Gerard 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2007/06/fourth-grader-wikipedia-update.ht… - d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Well, I guess WIKITRUTH *is* an 'attack site' after all...
by Daniel R. Tobias 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

On 8 Jun 2007 at 09:05:41 -0400, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote: > How odd. A userid was created yesterday which nominated the Wikitruth > article for deletion, based on BADSITES, and a bunch of > none-too-convincing arguments. It's about the most obvious example of > a straw man nomination I've seen in a while; I hope I am not accused > of trying to revise history by saying that. But, it's funny that the same "none-too-convincing arguments" and contentious behavior, when MONGO did it, was perfectly all right. When I complained about his behavior on AN/I, I was the one who got slapped for it, and threatened with blocking for "stalking" MONGO (by reverting his edits that I considered vandalism). Once again, he got off totally scot free, without so much as a slap on the wrist. Once again, it's shown that there's an "untouchable" caste here, a clique that has a free pass to do what it wishes, censor what it wishes, be uncivil to whomever it wishes, and the admins will always side with them and against whomever tries to hold them to account for their behavior. Some animals are more equal than others. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/

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Re: [WikiEN-l] An academic survey about the intention of sharing knowledge in the Wikipedia
by Fred Bauder 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

To make the link work you need to remove the ). at the end. Fred >-----Original Message----- >From: Cheng Yu Lai [mailto:n8560136@gmail.com] >Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 04:14 AM >To: wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >Subject: [WikiEN-l] An academic survey about the intention of sharing knowledge in the Wikipedia > >Dear all, > >I am a doctoral student from Dept. of MIS, National Chengchi University, >Taiwan. This academic questionnaire is about the influence of motivation >source and attitude toward Wikipedia to the intention of sharing knowledge >in the Wikipedia (http://online-survey.homeip.net/survey.php). Please take >few minutes to do the questionnaire to provide me your valuable opinion. >This survey does not require any personal information from you and of >course, I will not be sharing any information in any way. Your input means a >lot to me and I would like to thank you for taking the time to complete this >survey. Thank you for your help! > >Sincerely, > >Cheng-Yu >2007/6/8 > > >* * * * * * * * * * >Lai Cheng-Yu >Ph.D. Student, Department of MIS, National Chengchi University, Taiwan ( >R.O.C) >E-mail : n8560136(a)gmail.com >_______________________________________________ >WikiEN-l mailing list >WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >

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Re: [WikiEN-l] An academic survey about the intention of sharing knowledge in the Wikipedia
by Fred Bauder 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

I suspect that in the original Chinese the questions were more differentiated. Fred >-----Original Message----- >From: Magnus Manske [mailto:magnusmanske@googlemail.com] >Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 06:20 AM >To: 'English Wikipedia' >Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] An academic survey about the intention of sharing knowledge in the Wikipedia > >Well... >A1 : "I enjoy sharing my knowledge with others." >A2 : "Sharing my knowledge with others gives me pleasure." >Things I enjoy give me pleasure. So, this is the same question twice. >Or is my English that bad? Also, >A17 : "I like to share knowledge which gives me a sense of personal >achievement." >again... > >A4 : "I only like to do things that are fun." >What things are fun? Whatever someone likes to do. Kinda circular... > >A6 : "I will receive monetary rewards in return for my knowledge >sharing in the Wikipedia." >Does that mean "Im' getting paid for writing", or "I hope someone will >pay me, someday"? > >B4 : "Wikipedia produces correct information." >B5 : "The information provided by Wikipedia is accurate." >Again, same thing, IMHO. > >C1 : "Wikipedia operates reliably. " >C3 : "The operation of Wikipedia is dependable. " >Yet again... > >C2 : "Wikipedia performs reliably. " >C7 : "It takes too long for Wikipedia to respond to my requests. " >C8 : "Wikipedia provides information in a timely fashion. " >C9 : "Wikipedia returns answers to my requests quickly. " >Wow, that's a new record in repeating the same question! > >D2 : "Using Wikipedia would be pleasant. " >D8 : "It would be easy for me to learn the syntax in the Wikipedia. " >D9 : "It would be easy for me to search knowledge through Wikipedia. " >Would be, if ... what? If I would use it? Well, I do - how else would >I could I know the answers to these questions? > >Also, the whole "E" section is one huge redundancy party. > >And, the king of duplication: >F1 : "I often use Wikipedia to contribute my knowledge. " >F2 : "I regularly use Wikipedia to contribute my knowledge. " > >Do you get paid by the question, or something? :-) > >Anyway, I filled it in... > >Magnus > > >On 6/8/07, Cheng Yu Lai <n8560136(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I am a doctoral student from Dept. of MIS, National Chengchi University, >> Taiwan. This academic questionnaire is about the influence of motivation >> source and attitude toward Wikipedia to the intention of sharing knowledge >> in the Wikipedia (http://online-survey.homeip.net/survey.php). Please take >> few minutes to do the questionnaire to provide me your valuable opinion. >> This survey does not require any personal information from you and of >> course, I will not be sharing any information in any way. Your input means a >> lot to me and I would like to thank you for taking the time to complete this >> survey. Thank you for your help! >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Cheng-Yu >> 2007/6/8 >> >> >> * * * * * * * * * * >> Lai Cheng-Yu >> Ph.D. Student, Department of MIS, National Chengchi University, Taiwan ( >> R.O.C) >> E-mail : n8560136(a)gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > >_______________________________________________ >WikiEN-l mailing list >WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >

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An academic survey about the intention of sharing knowledge in the Wikipedia
by Cheng Yu Lai 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Dear all, I am a doctoral student from Dept. of MIS, National Chengchi University, Taiwan. This academic questionnaire is about the influence of motivation source and attitude toward Wikipedia to the intention of sharing knowledge in the Wikipedia (http://online-survey.homeip.net/survey.php). Please take few minutes to do the questionnaire to provide me your valuable opinion. This survey does not require any personal information from you and of course, I will not be sharing any information in any way. Your input means a lot to me and I would like to thank you for taking the time to complete this survey. Thank you for your help! Sincerely, Cheng-Yu 2007/6/8 * * * * * * * * * * Lai Cheng-Yu Ph.D. Student, Department of MIS, National Chengchi University, Taiwan ( R.O.C) E-mail : n8560136(a)gmail.com

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Re: [WikiEN-l] An academic survey about the intention of sharing knowledge in the Wikipedia
by Daniel R. Tobias 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

On 8 Jun 2007 at 13:48:04 +0200, "MacGyverMagic/Mgm" <macgyvermagic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It works fine for me, Fred. The ) isn't included in the link. > What I wondered is why they called it "the Wikipedia". Same with my mail program (Pegasus Mail). What characters get considered part of links and what ones don't can vary by mail program. To be sure a link is rendered correctly for most people, it's best to put it on a line by itself without surrounding characters. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/

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Tightening the "do no harm" screws.
by Joe Szilagyi 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

BLP idea: Negative or contentious facts should not be in a BLP article unless more than one unrelated source covers it. That would keep the one-note negative crap right out. Apply notability standards to *facts*, not just topics. Ben Affleck had a nasty divorce from Jennifer Lopez: Notable, lots of sources. Keep. Ben Affleck did x, y, or z illegal thing to J-Lo, reported by one otherwise "good" or acceptable source. No other independent coverage. Exclude ferociously. The base notion is that while some people may be 'notable', not all they do is, or can be. What George Bush for example does in private at the Crawford ranch, outside his official duties, is not inherently notable--unless society makes it so. We don't get to decide on that either; we report. By that token, we can choose to not include facts that aren't corroborated and multiply sourced that are of a negative or contentious tone. Good idea, or bad? Regards, Joe http://www.joeszilagyi.com

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Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 47, Issue 85
by Daniel R. Tobias 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

On 7 Jun 2007 at 08:17:56 +0100, "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2007/06/fourth-grader-wikipedia-update.ht… New reality game show: Are You Smarter Than a Fourth Grader Wikipedian? -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Bus Uncle is a FA? Unlitaterally
by K P 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

On 6/7/07, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I will officially act unilaterally as > > soon as I get the time and put it up for FAR > > Can you really put something up for review unilaterally? It would be > difficult for multiple people to do it... > Oh, I had to think about this for a moment.... Sometimes a cat sleeps on the keyboard while I'm working--but we're not usually working together (I'm sneezing and cussing, it's shedding and purring). The article is currently getting a lot of action and attention to detail that every FA should get before it's even nominated, while up for FAC, and at FAR. KP

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Bus Uncle is a FA?
by K P 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Wow, that is a crappy article. I will officially act unilaterally as soon as I get the time and put it up for FAR--someone with more free time should do so, though. I've done this with a few articles, and removed GA status from some crap. There's a procedure, but I think sparing en-Wiki the embarrasment of having this listed as a FA made acting unilaterally and pulling the FA from this article appropriate behaviour. FAC is a time-consuming process, and it requires a lot of concentrated work on the part of various editors. Things slip through that shouldn't. This obviously shouldn't have. Also, FAR is a time-consuming process. Maybe acting unilaterally and just removing it was a good thing. KP

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