Could the whole discussion on Erik issues over Mother
Teresa MOVE to the english list where it is relevant
WHILE
The whole discussion on watch list issues move from
the english list to the general list, where it is
relevant
OR
could we just swap mailing list names since
discussions relevant on english matter are on the
general list, while discussions relevant to the whole
community are on the english list ?
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To whom it may concern,
My name is Daniel and I'm a writer for the Paradise
Valley Community College newspaper in Phoenix,
Arizona. I wanted to ask a few questions about your
site Wikipedia. If you can get back to me prior to
Thursday the 13th, I would appericate any questions
you would be willing to answer. Thanks for your time!
Daniel Greenfield
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For those of you who don't frequent the village pump,
I thought I'd let you know that the facebook ("Rogue's
gallery" as Andrewa humerously called it) is open at
[[Wikipedia:Facebook]]. It's a compilation of pictures of our
contributors.
There had been some discussion before about compiling pictures
of wikipedians, so I decided to be bold and created it. I personally
think it's great being able to associate a face with a username -
it keeps all the different users from blurring together.
I'm interested in hearing what everyone has to say about it.
--Mark Pellegrini (Raul654)
mapellegrini(a)comcast.net wrote:
> I thought I'd let you know that the facebook ("Rogue's
> gallery" as Andrewa humerously called it) is open at
> [[Wikipedia:Facebook]]. It's a compilation of pictures of our
> contributors.
The idea itself is pretty good, but the page already demonstrates that
it doesn't really work because almost everybody is going to try to be
special and either distort their image beyond recognition (e.g.
LordSuryaofShropshire) or use something that barely even depicts their
self (e.g. Anth�re). To a non-Wikipedian, this kind of thing reinforces
the belief that Wikipedia is run/controlled by a bunch of weirdos.
Timwi
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I will be very frank with you Timwi, I think your comment is plain irrespectful, and a total dismissal of the variety of contributors to the project.
There are many types of contributors on Wikipedia, and so far, it is a key principle that Wikipedia is open to all participants, whatever their gender, their age, their culture, their level of education.
In case you are not aware, there are many women all over the world, who do not show part of their body, hair, or even face, to people who are not part of their family. That does not mean these women are weirdos. That just mean these women have a different culture from your culture. They are regular women, with the same type of intelligence or wiseness or leadership (to stick to your comment), that any women wearing westernish clothes (such as a bikini, as many french people keep requesting from me).
In my opinion, Wikipedia is not *only* an encyclopedia. We are not here *only* to gather knowledge, and make it available to the larger number of people in the world.
I think we are also here to learn from others, to acknowledge that other opinions exist, that it is best to take them into account, and to respect this diversity. I am convinced that this is a first step for peace, and indeed the first step for all of us to succeed to work together. And boy is it a high step !
If we ever want this encyclopedia to be used all over the world with full trust, such as perhaps in muslim countries, it is best that we collectively show that we are able ourselves to respect all these differences.
Claiming that the picture of a face covered female participant "will reinforce the belief Wikipedia is run/controlled by weidoes", is NOT exactly a step in that direction.
I think you have earned the right to make a couple of edits to one of the following articles on Wikipedia :-)
* Islam in France
* Ni putes, ni soumises
* Or the article about islamic veil and the law about banning religious signs in France
Anthere
PS : I often have questions about that picture, featured picture, and used in two encyclopedic articles, and no, not an islamic veil.
To make it crystal clear : that was the first personal picture I uploaded on Wikipedia. I did so around february or march 2003, and kept it on my user page for a good couple of months. And yes, the time of upload was deliberate.
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There have recently been a proliferation with the article series boxes.
This is a sign that we are in dire need of the category system. What is
the current state of the category system and what can Nohat do to help?
Let there be categories before the Wikipedia is inundated with articles
that are 99% article series boxes and 1% content.
That is all,
Thank you.
- David
I realize that I'm the only one again, but could someone tell me what is
going on? Why can't I access Wikipedia? Why do I get the message "Server not
found"? (I thought we had several new and big servers?)
Kurt
Sorry about the "associated the Marines" thing. I may have provoked this
by taking OUT language tending to endorse the view of Bush opponents
that US troops committed atrocities in Fallujah.
Anti-US activists said Americans "opened fire" on unarmed civilians. Two
US colonels said, no, we "shot back" and it's a real shame if any
unarmed Iraqi demonstrators were hit in the crossfire betweend armed
insurgents and occupation forces.
(Wasn't there a movie called Rules of Engagment with a plot EXACTLY like
this? Who says no one watches American movies overseas?)
Ed Poor, aka Uncle Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick [mailto:giantsrick13@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:15 PM
To: English Wikipedia
Subject: [WikiEN-l] [[Fallujah]]
Several new users with no edit history have suddenly ganged
together at the [[Fallujah]] article, demanding some sort of disclaimer
that Wikipedia/Bomis is somehow associated with the United States Marine
Corps and therefore cannot be neutral in editing such articles as
Fallujah. It's pretty obvious that they're sock puppets for some
previously-known User (maybe Bird?) with an axe to grind, but the
discussion at [[Talk:Fallujah]] is instructive.
RickK, who is not involved in the slightest in the article's
editing
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You and anthere kind of average out.
Theresa
-----Original Message-----
From: Theresa Robinson [mailto:robinst@MIT.EDU]
Sent: 30 April 2004 15:37
To: English Wikipedia
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: The Facebook opens for buisness
> Wow, I see ample opportunity for anxious over-interpretation here. I
have
> just noticed that amongst the mathematically inclined, Axel is looking
_up_,
> Michael Hardy is looking _directly into the camera_, and I'm looking
_down_.
> Let's not even get into Angela and Anthere's respective choices.
And nobody seems to care that I'm nekkid in mine. :)
moink
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Well I don't know about you Timwi, but I spend several hours a day working on wikipedia, or wikibooks every day, month in month out for ages now, and I intend on doing it for the foreseeable future. I do this for no payment, and virtually no recognition. Just for the good of mankind.
I am a weirdo!
-----Original Message-----
From: Timwi [mailto:timwi@gmx.net]
Sent: 30 April 2004 14:07
To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Re: The Facebook opens for buisness
mapellegrini(a)comcast.net wrote:
> I thought I'd let you know that the facebook ("Rogue's
> gallery" as Andrewa humerously called it) is open at
> [[Wikipedia:Facebook]]. It's a compilation of pictures of our
> contributors.
The idea itself is pretty good, but the page already demonstrates that
it doesn't really work because almost everybody is going to try to be
special and either distort their image beyond recognition (e.g.
LordSuryaofShropshire) or use something that barely even depicts their
self (e.g. Anthère). To a non-Wikipedian, this kind of thing reinforces
the belief that Wikipedia is run/controlled by a bunch of weirdos.
Timwi
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My complaint is that the format is... very tall and skinny. :) Perhaps
something somewhat standardized with rows and columns... darn, I know
someone had a really good gallery which organized itself in rows as
necessary, but I forget where. =(
~~~
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:26:08 +0000, mapellegrini(a)comcast.net
<mapellegrini(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm interested in hearing what everyone has to say about it.
> --Mark Pellegrini (Raul654)
You keep using that word.
I do not think that it means what you think it means.
-- Inigo Montoya