The current <ref>...</ref>...<references/> system produces nice
references, but it is flawed--all the text contained in a given
reference appears in the text that the reference is linked from. For
It was a sunny day on Wednesday<ref>David Smith. ''History of Wednesdays.''
History Magazine, 2019.</ref>. The next day, Thursday, was cloudy.
== References and notes ==
(That's a very simple example, too. References start to become a lot
larger once they start to include other information and/or are
produced via a template.)
Once way I could conceive of correcting the problem is to have a
reference tag that provides only a _link_ to the note via a label and
another type of reference tag that actually _defines_ and _displays_
the note. For example:
It was a sunny day on Wednesday<ref id="smith"/>. The next day, Thursday,
== References and notes ==
<reference id="smith">David Smith. ''History of Wednesdays.'' History
This makes the raw wikitext easier to read, since the text of the
actual reference is in the _references_ section instead of in the
page's primary content.
I think this could work ...
In a message dated 4/16/2009 9:49:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> He obviously is claiming that things which we say are true, aren't. Even
> the non-article case, where he objects to the factual content of
> by us instead of articles by us, this is something we should pay attention
Proclamations by Jimmy, not by anyone else.
I don't see anything to tell me that Larry was complaining about anything
or anyone except something Jimmy said.
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics". - Mark
Since Citizendium is all the rage on this mailing list, a review and
comparison of Alexa stats seemed like a good idea. Here's how things stack
(Percent of global Internet users who visit the site, 3 month average)
Of course, the numbers vary a bit depending on what ranking service one
selects. But not by all that much. It's been two and a half years since
Citizendium's launch. The project has 10,500 articles and slightly over 100
approved articles. English Wikipedia topped 100,000 articles in January
2003, just about two years after launch. In January 2004 English Wikipedia
reached 200,000 articles. Arguably, Citizendium both gains and loses by
launching later: the site can draw upon a large pool of existing free
content at Wikipedia, but Wikipedia had already become a prominent website
by the time Citizendium started.
With respect extended toward Larry Sanger and his undertaking, a few
questions are worth asking:
1. Is Citizendium a snapshot of what Wikipedia's growth would have been, if
Larry Sanger had remained with the project?
2. Will Citizendium become a top 1000 website within the next five years?
3. Is debate about Sanger's and Wales's respective cofounder/founder claims
regarding Wikipedia a worthwhile endeavor?
I'm just wondering what our current slog rank is on en.wikipedia.
My sense is that it's somewhere around 8.5%, but I realize that
the interdependence between a site's slog rank* and slog rate*
make it such that either value, however accurate, is not as useful
as unified value based on both.
The slog rate is important simply because we naturally want it to
go down, and not up. My sense is that 8.5% is about where it has
been for a couple years now, but that it's still too high, and as such
we need to figure out ways to lower that number.
At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cool_Wall we had a complete list
of cars which appear on the BBC Top Gear "Cool Wall". I removed this
as being almost certainly a violation of copyright. It is now being
argued that reproducing the list in full does not violate copyright,
because it is not published in the show's magazine or on the website
and has been compiled by collating the lists from numerous shows. It
is further asserted that compiling the list from these shows does not
constitute original research, although there is no known reliable
secondary source for any of the data, let alone the complete collated
Original research? You decide.
Copyright? I think so, but what do I know?
Fancruft? Ooooh, tricky :-)
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Real-time collaborative editing. Scroll back and forth through
history, showing changes by a single user or of a single paragraph.
Embedded comments updated in real time. Edit from multiple clients.
Could we please have all of this? This is several orders of magnitude
better than MediaWiki's collaborative editing features.