Folks,
Would someone help me here? What is the current policy regarding linking
dates such as Birth and Death in biography articles?
Thanks,
Marc Riddell
Hi all,
The current <ref>...</ref>...<references/> system produces nice
references, but it is flawed--all the text contained in a given
reference appears in the text that the reference is linked from. For
example:
It was a sunny day on Wednesday<ref>David Smith. ''History of Wednesdays.''
History Magazine, 2019.</ref>. The next day, Thursday, was cloudy.
== References and notes ==
<references/>
(That's a very simple example, too. References start to become a lot
larger once they start to include other information and/or are
produced via a template.)
Once way I could conceive of correcting the problem is to have a
reference tag that provides only a _link_ to the note via a label and
another type of reference tag that actually _defines_ and _displays_
the note. For example:
It was a sunny day on Wednesday<ref id="smith"/>. The next day, Thursday,
was cloudy.
== References and notes ==
<reference id="smith">David Smith. ''History of Wednesdays.'' History
Magazine, 2019.</reference>
This makes the raw wikitext easier to read, since the text of the
actual reference is in the _references_ section instead of in the
page's primary content.
I think this could work ...
--Thomas Larsen
In a message dated 4/16/2009 9:49:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
arromdee(a)rahul.net writes:
> He obviously is claiming that things which we say are true, aren't. Even
> in
> the non-article case, where he objects to the factual content of
> proclamations
> by us instead of articles by us, this is something we should pay attention
> to.>>
Proclamations by Jimmy, not by anyone else.
I don't see anything to tell me that Larry was complaining about anything
or anyone except something Jimmy said.
Will
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics". - Mark
Twain
Since Citizendium is all the rage on this mailing list, a review and
comparison of Alexa stats seemed like a good idea. Here's how things stack
up:
TRAFFIC RANK:
Citizendium: 63,929
Wikipedia: 7
REACH:
(Percent of global Internet users who visit the site, 3 month average)
Citizendium: 0.00155%
Wikipedia: 8.711%
Of course, the numbers vary a bit depending on what ranking service one
selects. But not by all that much. It's been two and a half years since
Citizendium's launch. The project has 10,500 articles and slightly over 100
approved articles. English Wikipedia topped 100,000 articles in January
2003, just about two years after launch. In January 2004 English Wikipedia
reached 200,000 articles. Arguably, Citizendium both gains and loses by
launching later: the site can draw upon a large pool of existing free
content at Wikipedia, but Wikipedia had already become a prominent website
by the time Citizendium started.
With respect extended toward Larry Sanger and his undertaking, a few
questions are worth asking:
1. Is Citizendium a snapshot of what Wikipedia's growth would have been, if
Larry Sanger had remained with the project?
2. Will Citizendium become a top 1000 website within the next five years?
3. Is debate about Sanger's and Wales's respective cofounder/founder claims
regarding Wikipedia a worthwhile endeavor?
-Durova
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It's great to see more and more people re-using Wikipedia content. such as this: http://euobserver.com/9/28232
However, does this comply with the GDFL license? All it says by way of attribution is "(Photo: wikipedia)"
If not, is there a group of people somewhere who chase up copyvios like this?
Andrew
Just out of interest, what is "doing it right" in this context. Is a link to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Houses_of_Parliament.jpg plus an extended text along the lines of, say, the bottom of http://www.answers.com/topic/bahrain-football-club required?
I've seen (source:Wikipedia) quoted a few times on media pictures now.
----- "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> From: "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Thursday, 4 June, 2009 21:55:23 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] GDFL compliance
>
> 2009/6/4 Andrew Turvey <andrewrturvey(a)googlemail.com>:
>
> > It's great to see more and more people re-using Wikipedia content. such as this: http://euobserver.com/9/28232
> > However, does this comply with the GDFL license? All it says by way of attribution is "(Photo: wikipedia)"
> > If not, is there a group of people somewhere who chase up copyvios like this?
>
>
> Usually if someone (preferably the creator) contacts them suggesting
> how to do it right, places are keen to get it right. Asking nicely and
> reasonably is effective in practice.
>
>
> - d.
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I'm just wondering what our current slog rank is on en.wikipedia.
My sense is that it's somewhere around 8.5%, but I realize that
the interdependence between a site's slog rank* and slog rate*
make it such that either value, however accurate, is not as useful
as unified value based on both.
The slog rate is important simply because we naturally want it to
go down, and not up. My sense is that 8.5% is about where it has
been for a couple years now, but that it's still too high, and as such
we need to figure out ways to lower that number.
Regards,
SV
Hi all, in two years of looking for solutions to the BLP issues have finally
stumbled upon an idea that hasn't been raised before. Basically it's this:
*Suppose we noindexed biographies of living persons, upon the subject's
request.* This would require developer assistance, and require a bit of
structure to make sure the ability doesn't get misused. An initial draft
proposal is at my blog. Am interested in thoughts and suggestions.
http://durova.blogspot.com/2009/06/biographies-of-living-persons-ingenius.h…
Best regards,
Durova
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