WikiEN-l June 2007

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Re: [WikiEN-l] [[Daniel Brandt]] is gone again
by Rob Church 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

On 6/14/07, Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca> wrote: > I pointed out > that this would violate the GFDL I got a response from Slim Virgin that > "This is no time to worry about the GFDL." This demonstrates the best example of SlimVirgin's little crusade against Brandt, because it demonstrates that she is willing to risk Wikipedia's legal integrity for the sake of winning it. Any "violation of the GFDL", as you phrase it, creates a situation of questionable legal status. If a true "violation" occurs, then Wikipedia is infringing upon copyright, and that is a problem. Then again, most Wikipedians don't seem to understand that the GFDL doesn't require half as much attribution as they seem to think, so this is probably another false cry... Rob Church

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An unsung precursor
by charles.r.matthews＠ntlworld.com 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

Chanced across this in writing up [[George Jardine]]: http://www.acenet.edu/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisp… Charles ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

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Wikipedia appears to be useful for something!
by David Gerard 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

http://blog.compete.com/2007/05/31/wikipedia-search-terms/ - d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] [[Daniel Brandt]] is gone again
by Daniel R. Tobias 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

On 14 Jun 2007 at 00:19:49 -0600, Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca> wrote: > Meanwhile there's now discussion on talk:Daniel Brandt about deleting > the article's history once the merge is complete, and when I pointed out > that this would violate the GFDL I got a response from Slim Virgin that > "This is no time to worry about the GFDL." Funny... GFDL rules (and Wikipedians' interpretations of them) seemed to trump everything else, in some people's assessment, where WP:BJODN was concerned. It's interesting how policies, even ones based on real-world concerns like copyright law, are not considered important in themselves, but only as bludgeons to enforce whatever the enforcer wishes to happen for other reasons; when a particular policy is harmful rather than helpful to one's agenda, it's quickly discarded. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/

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Re: [WikiEN-l] A BADSITES RfA piling-on
by Gallagher Mark George 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

G'day Ken, > On Wed, 30 May 2007, John Lee wrote: > > On the other hand, we have firm criteria for what would be an > attack site - > > a site devoted to outing the identities of anonymous > Wikipedians, or a site > > devoted to libeling Wikipedia editors is unambiguously such a site. > > The Tersa Nielsen Hayden situation pretty much demonstrates that > the attack > site criteria are not firm or unambiguous. No, it doesn't. Here, I'll resolve that question now: Teresa Nielsen-Hayden's weblog is unambiguously *not* an attack site. Will Beback suffered a momentary lapse of reason, and he seriously fucked up in a way that should cause him to blush continously for the next two weeks. Where's the controversy? (I'm far from being on the side of the BADSITES people in this debate, but when you say something moronic, I can't agree with it.) -- [[User:MarkGallagher]]

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Election Committee announces Endorsements Procedure
by Philippe Beaudette 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

Posted on behalf of the election committee, Philippe This page can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2007/Endorsements/en _____________________________ ==Endorsements== ===Introduction=== The purpose of the endorsement requirement is to try to make sure that the election only includes serious candidates. We need to do this because this election is being conducted for Wikimedia which includes many languages, and therefore we are trying to have every candidate's statement translated into as many languages as we can. This work is done by volunteer translators and can only be done only if the number of candidates is limited to a reasonable number. The requirements for time-on-wiki and edit-count requirements help to make sure that only serious candidates participate, but the Elections Committee did not wish to raise these requirements too high because then some genuine candidates might be excluded, so we have added the requirement for endorsements. Because the Elections Committee believes that the endorsement requirement is important to the Board election process, we urge that reasonable requests and discussion concerning endorsements should '''not be considered a violation of any local anti-canvassing guidelines or norms.''' ===Criteria for Endorsement=== All candidates standing for election are required to obtain 12 endorsements for their candidacy. Criteria for endorsement are the same as criteria to vote: users endorsing must have 400 edits in any namespace or combination of namespaces on a single Wikimedia project and at least 3 months edit history prior to June 1, 2007. Candidates who have not received the required number of endorsements will not be allowed to stand for the election. ===Qualified candidates only=== Only qualified candidates may be submitted for endorsements. If you are not willing to be confirmed through the candidacy process (including verifying your identity to the Foundation, and meeting the minimum qualifications for candidacy), your name will not be submitted for endorsements. ===How to endorse=== In order to endorse a candidate, locate their endorsement section on the endorsements page [NOT YET AVAILABLE, ENDORSEMENTS HAVE NOT OPENED YET], and "sign" it using four tildes <nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki>. You may also leave a very brief (up to '''100 characters''', roughly equivalent to 25 word in many languages) statement for the reason of your endorsement. Statements longer than 100 characters '''may be removed''' at the discretion of the [[Board elections/2007/Committee/en|Election Committee]], though the endorsement will remain valid. Endorsements will open 0:00 June 17, 2007 (UTC) and can only be withdrawn during the endorsement period, which closes 23:59 June 23, 2007 (UTC). After 23:59 June 23, 2007 (UTC) you may not submit or withdraw any endorsements. Endorsements may be removed '''by members of the election committee only''', and ''only if the endorser is found to not be a qualified voter in this election'' or the endorser has endorsed too many candidates in the election. In that case, all endorsements by that endorser will be withdrawn by the committee and the endorser notified so that they can re-submit endorsements up to the maximum number allowed. ===How many candidates may I endorse? I'm a candidate, how many others may I endorse?=== Each qualified voter may endorse up to 3 candidates for election. Candidates may only endorse two others (their endorsement of themselves is implied by virtue of their self-nomination). Candidates should not "sign" their own endorsement section, and their own endorsement will not count toward their required number of endorsements. ===When may I endorse a candidate?=== The endorsement period will begin 7 days after we begin accepting candidates for office. On the current timeline, you may begin endorsing on June 17, 2007, at 0:00UTC. ===A candidate received an invalid endorsement! What do I do?=== Please contact a member of the [[Board elections/2007/Committee/en|Election Committee]] who will investigate the claim.`

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yay external links!
by David Gerard 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

http://www.cheezhead.com/2007/06/01/troy-smith-wikipedia/ Do we have editors getting vicious on these by default? - d.

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CSD A7, hilarity ensues
by Anthony 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

On 6/11/07, Todd Allen <toddmallen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There is. CSD A1, A3, and A7 all address that. If you don't put anything > but a title, you include so little that it's impossible to tell what the > article is even really about, or you don't make any assertion whatsoever > as to why the subject might be notable, it's speedyable. > "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources>that are independent <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Sources>of the subject." So to not be speediable, you have to assert that the subject might have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject? Such a humorous CSD criterion.

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Wikipedia:OTRS How does an outside person find out how to make a complaint?
by Keith Old 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

Folks, We had a person contact the Unblock list this morning to raise legitimate concerns about an article. They were referred to OTRS through Wikipedia:OTRS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OTRS). The general view was from those who have looked at the page that it isn't very user friendly for people seeking to raise concerns about articles. We need to rewrite the information and to make OTRS easier to find for those people who need it. I have fixed the problem about vandalism to a school article. Regards Keith Old

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Re: [WikiEN-l] [Unblock-en-l] Wikipedia e-mail
by Szépszivy Ásér 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

> > (This mail is for google-mail (gmail)) > User:Riana (Wikipedia administrator) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Riana I fight aggainst your (*Shoeofdeth, Kusma, Reinydays*, etc.) *vandalism*, I continue the contribution eternally, while you (pl.) change the negative, passive, inferior and bad way of thinking, and hear my opinion, and make a portal/project page. Your heart is worse than an animal, You have not any *mentschnhartz*. *You Are REALLY KILLING MANY AETICLES!!! I'M VERY ANGRY NOW!!* I bought the telephonbook of Vienna, and book about surnames, then I continue expansion of academic articles. I'm stongly against for *Manual of Style* and *Wikipedia:SU*. Then, I have no duties to observe for the wrong custom. I continue contribution. *-- Szépszivy-Schönhertz Ásér, a fighter, Hebraist, linguist*

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