I am in the process of moving the [[programming language]] pages ("Forth
programming language", "LISP programming language" etc.) to standard names
("Forth", "LISP") where there's no need for disambiguation. If I do so by hand, I
can only cut & paste the contents, because there's usually a redirect in
place. Cut and paste, unlike "move page", does not preserve the page history,
however. So the proper course of action is to first delete the redirect pages
and then use "move page". I can only do this with sysop status. (I've thought
about making this possible for non-sysops by changing the code accordingly,
but the security risk is too high.)
So, unless someone else volunteers to move the pages, I'd like to request
temporary sysop status for this purpose only.
Regards,
Erik
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Zoe Wrote:
>DW put this on my Talk page. Any comments? - Zoe
Well, I guess first that "horrific" has one "f" and not three; and
second, that prose seems a natural choice in writing biographies,
though I wouldn't mind seeing the life of Albert Einstein arranged
into a complex HTML table, perhaps shaped like the [[periodic table]];
and third that profanity and confrontationalism usually don't do much
to advance discussion, but do wonders in stopping it cold (which might
or might not be DW's intention); and finally, that I would really like
to start meeting some of the people I "talk" with on wikipedia,
because I'm sure we're all a lot nicer than we occasionally seem, and
I don't mind going out for a beer.
cheers,
kq
wikikarma: [[Military of Slovenia]] and subsequent disagreement,
resolved in civil discourse with [[user:Zocky]], who served me up a
slice of well-deserved humble pie
"Are you logging in more, and enjoying it less?" I have begun to ask myself this of late. I seem to be logging in a dozen times a day this week.
Is it just because I use Opera 6.05, or is Wikipedia trying to tell me I'm no longer needed here? ;-)
"Uncle" Ed Poor
Tim,
You seem to have 2 usernames (both with sysop rights).
In the interests of ensuring that the "count of users with sysop rights" is accurate, would you mind if I limited you to one sysop account? I intend to leave Tim Shell alone, and demote Timshell.
Ed Poor, Wikipedia Developer
At 09:15 AM 1/24/03 -0500, Ed Poor wrote:
>Jimbo wrote:
>
><< I am fond of the idea of an annual or semi-annual conference, held at
>different places around the world (for convenience for different
>people) to promote wikipedia _community_.
>
>[snip]
>
>Summer/Fall, 2003, East coast of US
>Winter/Spring, 2004, West coast of US (Vegas, baby!)
>Summer/Fall, 2004, Europe
>Winter/Spring, 2004, Asia/Australia >>
>
>Sign me up for "East coast of US" -- either New York City or Washington, DC.
>
>I can arrange free meeting space in New York, for the non-alcoholic part
>of the conference, one block away from Grand Central Station.
This sounds good, especially if you can arrange for coffee/tea/juice/etc. (not
necessarily free), and we can always adjourn to a restaurant or bar later.
Thanks
--
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vr(a)redbird.org
http://www.redbird.org
Attention, all and sundry. Come nigh and hear the tidings!
"Eloquence is now a sysop."
We welcome Erik into the ranks of trusted contributors who carry the awesome powers and duties of sysop-hood.
Uncle Ed, Wikipedia Developer
Sure. Just remind me of your Wikipedia username, please?
Ed Poor
Wikipedia Developer
-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Moeller [mailto:erik_moeller@gmx.de]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:09 AM
To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Request for sysop status (to save page histories)
...So, unless someone else volunteers to move the pages, I'd like to request
temporary sysop status for this purpose only.
Regards,
Erik
Hi,
there's a problem with the article [[Madeline Amy Sweeney]], about a victim
of the Sep 11 attacks. This started out as an anonymous contribution:
"Amy was a wonderful person to wrok with. She inspired me to enjoy my life,
work hard and have fun with my job as an American Airlines Flight Attendant,
because it was the best of the best."
It was expanded, and the quote was removed. Oliver Perreira and Tom
Parmenter have insisted on keeping that quote in the article. The latest variant used
by Oliver is this:
--
The Wikipedia article on Madeline Amy Sweeney was started on November 28,
2001, with the following anonymous sentiment:- "Amy was a wonderful person to
wrok with. She inspired me to enjoy my life, work hard and have fun with my
job as an American Airlines Flight Attendant, because it was the best of the
best."
--
A new contributor named Arno also wants to keep the quote in, with the
remark "SPECIAL NOTE". Because he is encouraged by Tom and Oliver, he is now ready
to start an "edit war".
My position is that, however touching this may be, there are several reasons
not to have the quote in the article:
* We have a precedent here. On [[Wilson Flagg]] we have kept the comment on
the Talk page and linked to it, with the link name "Tributes and Comments".
* The anonymous quote is unverifiable. I could easily come along and add
another, similar quote to the article under an anonymous IP. Should that then,
too, be included because of its sentimental value? Or does the first quote get
priority because it was "the quote that started this article"? In that case,
can I come along and add new articles about Sep 11 victims with fake
anonymous quotes that are destined to remain in them forever?
* Any self-reference of the type "The Wikipedia article .." is
non-encyclopedic to the extreme and should be avoided whenever possible.
In conclusion, I think it is obvious that we should keep the anonymous
comment on the Talk page, and not in the article. It would set an extremely bad
precedent if we allowed these kind of unverifiable comments in articles. I'd
like to hear more opinions on, preferably on the Talk page of the article
[[Madeline Amy Sweeney]].
Regards,
Erik
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Jimbo wrote:
<< I am fond of the idea of an annual or semi-annual conference, held at
different places around the world (for convenience for different
people) to promote wikipedia _community_.
[snip]
Summer/Fall, 2003, East coast of US
Winter/Spring, 2004, West coast of US (Vegas, baby!)
Summer/Fall, 2004, Europe
Winter/Spring, 2004, Asia/Australia >>
Sign me up for "East coast of US" -- either New York City or Washington, DC.
I can arrange free meeting space in New York, for the non-alcoholic part of the conference, one block away from Grand Central Station.
Ed Poor
Zoe,
I'm sorry that DW spoke so condescendingly to you. Nonetheless, they make some good points. I'm going to set up a [[Wikipedia:Biography standards]] page (and a Talk page!) where we can all discuss this.
I invite KQ and Mav to join the Talk there, and hope that all contributors will rise to our usual high standards of civility, courtesy and common sense. ^_^
Uncle Ed