Check out my talk page. Not only has DW attacked me as a moron, but he has specifically mentioned Jtdirl and and Deb as morons. And you've already seen what he's had to say about Magnus Manske. And then check out [[Wikipedia talk:Tokerboy's Law]] and [[Talk:Georges Seurat]].
Zoe
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Sorry for another DW post, but the business over at
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Irene_Jacob is pretty funny (basically,
DW calls somebody stupid for "scewing up" his "hard work" because they
asserted that Irene Jacob was French, only for it to be pointed out to him
that it was he who added said assertion in his first edit to the page).
Sorry, but it made me laugh. I won't say another word about him, honest.
lp (camembert)
WikiKarma: [[Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra]]
This twerp has shouted things like "\"MAKEDONIJA\" IS FOREIGN WORD FOR THE
SKOPIANS SLAV LANGUAGE ! THIS IS GREEK NAME ! SEE \"MAKEDONIA\" !" on various
pages relating to Macedonia and the Balkans. He has done it from several
addresses in that range, which according to whois is 62.47.0.0 -
62.47.63.255. He is blocked twice at that address, but please be on the
lookout for similar rants from other addresses in the range.
phma
> > Do we have a policy on "best of" lists?
I don't think we have an explicit policy, but I
recommend using other, noted sources for such things.
For example, if we want a list of the most influential
rock and roll performers, the [[List of inductees of
the rock and roll hall of fame]] is useful -- of
course, some may disagree with the hall of fame's
choices, but at least the list will not become too
complete to be of any use. I've also used the rnr
hall of fame's "500 songs that shaped rock and roll",
which are listed in an article -- I wanted a list of
songs, but my own knowledge is incomplete and biased
anyway, so I used theirs. I think this is far better
than trying (and probably failing) at coming up with
any "best of" list through wikiconsensus.
On a sidenote, would something like VH1's 100 most
influential albums list be copyrighted?
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I don't know if it's because of the slashdotting or the worm that's
been deployed (we're running mySQL, right?). Anyway, developers,
here's this from slashdot (which you may have already seen):
MS SQL Server Worm Wreaking Havoc
MicrosoftPosted by pudge on Saturday January 25, @07:43AM
from the no-man-will-know-the-day-or-the-hour dept.
defile writes "Since about midnight EST almost every host on the
internet has been receiving a 376 byte UDP payload on port ms-sql-m
(1434) from a random infected server. Reports of some hosts receiving
10 per minute or more. internetpulse.net is reporting UUNet and
Internap are being hit very hard. This is the cause of major
connectivity problems being experienced worldwide. It is believed this
worm leverages a vulnerability published in June 2002. Several core
routers have taken to blocking port 1434 outright. If you run
Microsoft SQL Server, make sure the public internet can't access it.
If you manage a gateway, consider dropping UDP packets sent to port
1434." bani adds "This has effectively disabled 5 of the 13 root
nameservers."
kq
When the mailing list reminded me of DW (I had already pushed aside the
memory ;-) I had a look at the upload log. I found that when he uploaded
a smaller version of my images (which he did quite often), he used the
same name again, thus leaving the large version only in the image history.
As far as I remember, he should have renamed them to something like
"foobar (small).jpg", and linked to the large version from that image page.
I asked him to do that, twice. Both times he relpied on my talk page
that he doesn't understand what I mean.
The Second time he ended with "Go away...". I'm not sure if *he* went
away, or told *me* to go away, though.
Is there an official policy on that large/small image thing?
Magnus
I just deleted two files uploaded by [[User:Strakes]]. They were full
songs (1.4 MB each!) in WMA format, and not used anywhere.
Watch out for him...
Magnus
Actually, DW is really getting to annoy me, and not just on account of this.
He's been ''gutting'' articles he doesn't like, often leaving snide comments
about the persons who wrote the original version on the talk pages. Yes,
some of them needed changes, but his arrogant dismissive tone about other
people's work is rude, snide and outrageous. I came across some pages where
three or four people people obviously had put in a long of work and had a
long debate, only to find their work 'dumped' with some snide remark about
it all being rubbish, with personal insults thrown in, suggesting that if
that was the best they could do, they shouldn't be on Wiki. Yes, in a lot of
cases things needed changing or re-writing or tidying up, but his whole
approach, tone and attitude is well beyonds the bounds of acceptable
behaviour.
As to his claim here, I disagree. We are not drawing up a list of filing
cards here. I'm quite happy with Zoe's work. To call it a 'totally and
completely lousy presentation' is not merely wrong but typical of the way he
treats anyone who gets in his way, or writes something he doesn't like, in a
way he doesn't like. To claim boldly that ''there is not one person on
Wikipedia with any marketing expertise'' is monumental arrogance, as well as
factually wrong. Maybe instead of calling himself DW he should have used
TEHL (The Ego Has landed) when he joined Wiki.
OK, now that I have had my gripe for the day, I'm off to do some articles on
Wiki, and if DW so much as touches anything I'm working on and leaves a
snide remark, I'll set Two16 loose on him.
No. Maybe that's too cruel, though I'm not sure to whom; Two16 or DW!
JT.
>From: Zoe <zoecomnena(a)yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org
>To: WikiEN-l(a)wikipedia.org
>Subject: [WikiEN-l] A few choice words from DW
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:39:32 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>DW put this on my Talk page. Any comments? - Zoe
>
>
>
>Dear ZOE: I'm sure your intentions, along with the others, was quite
>sincere in coming up with a formula for the opening line of an article on
>someone. However, it is a totally and completely lousy presentation that is
>hard on the eyes and far too much for researchers to be asked to absdorb.
>In plain words, it turns people off and therefore Wikipedia's credibity.
>Please get over the obsession with Google, the heading doesn't gain users,
>only QUALITY does. I am putting an enormous amount of work into hundreds of
>articles that, based on this hoffific heading presentation is rendering
>them useless. For people with or without a brain larger than a flea, this
>is what they need when using an Encyclopedia for a biography or other such
>items:
>NAME: year dates, occupation.
>John Smith (1920-1990), Medical Scientist
>SPACE
>Born John William George Peabody Smith on July 5, 1920, he was etc.
>Make paragraphs short (See HarperCollins/Random House or amy other
>publisher about readability, interest span in the 21st Century etc.
>LAST LINE (always): John Smith died on December 1, 1990 and was interred in
>????.
>If they were a great whatever, you might add one one to occupation. Then,
>in a new PARAGRAPH, the full date of birth. AND, I've never met anyone who
>said they were born in Tupelo, United States. So, do as I do and get the
>Province/Departement etc. for foreign countries. Too, nobody says they were
>born in Boston, New England, United States. So, a Region in France should
>be specified after the Departement or leave the region out. I don't want to
>see any more of my hard work changed. There is not one person on Wikipedia
>with any marketing expertise. Buy a few marketing books, use a little
>marketing common sense, and see how Wikipedia can succeed rather than
>articles on "getting new users." Build it right, accurate, and sufficiently
>detailed and interesting and they will come. ALSO, if idiots want to insert
>stubs or are too lazy to do research, LABEL the artice: ''Work in
>Progress". That way, a new user/viewer understands and doesn't click away
>thinking what a half-assed informa!
>tion site Wikipedia is. Because, when they do, they don'y come back (except
>to play and add the same useless bits of crap) and they don't tell
>others....DW
>
>
>
>
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DW put this on my Talk page. Any comments? - Zoe
Dear ZOE: I'm sure your intentions, along with the others, was quite sincere in coming up with a formula for the opening line of an article on someone. However, it is a totally and completely lousy presentation that is hard on the eyes and far too much for researchers to be asked to absdorb. In plain words, it turns people off and therefore Wikipedia's credibity. Please get over the obsession with Google, the heading doesn't gain users, only QUALITY does. I am putting an enormous amount of work into hundreds of articles that, based on this hoffific heading presentation is rendering them useless. For people with or without a brain larger than a flea, this is what they need when using an Encyclopedia for a biography or other such items:
NAME: year dates, occupation.
John Smith (1920-1990), Medical Scientist
SPACE
Born John William George Peabody Smith on July 5, 1920, he was etc.
Make paragraphs short (See HarperCollins/Random House or amy other publisher about readability, interest span in the 21st Century etc.
LAST LINE (always): John Smith died on December 1, 1990 and was interred in ????.
If they were a great whatever, you might add one one to occupation. Then, in a new PARAGRAPH, the full date of birth. AND, I've never met anyone who said they were born in Tupelo, United States. So, do as I do and get the Province/Departement etc. for foreign countries. Too, nobody says they were born in Boston, New England, United States. So, a Region in France should be specified after the Departement or leave the region out. I don't want to see any more of my hard work changed. There is not one person on Wikipedia with any marketing expertise. Buy a few marketing books, use a little marketing common sense, and see how Wikipedia can succeed rather than articles on "getting new users." Build it right, accurate, and sufficiently detailed and interesting and they will come. ALSO, if idiots want to insert stubs or are too lazy to do research, LABEL the artice: ''Work in Progress". That way, a new user/viewer understands and doesn't click away thinking what a half-assed information site Wikipedia is. Because, when they do, they don'y come back (except to play and add the same useless bits of crap) and they don't tell others....DW
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Jimbo re: Jason re: Jimbo:
>> > Summer/Fall, 2003, East coast of US
>> > Winter/Spring, 2004, West coast of US (Vegas, baby!)
>> > Summer/Fall, 2004, Europe
>> > Winter/Spring, 2004, Asia/Australia
>>
>> Why do you need to separate them in time? I somehow can't imagine
>> many people travelling the world to go to all the wikipedia
>> conferences :-)
>
>I would. I don't imagine anyone else would.
haha, I'm trying to plan ahead for this one trip--$300 for me being an
investment. ^_^
the starving student cliche, kq
p.s. i'm on the east coast, and there's a page started at meta re:
meetups.
wikikarma: [[An American Family]] fixup yesterday. more due, I'm
sure; I'll get on it after returning from the library.