*Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.*
Discussions
- Restrict merging rights to autoconfirmed users https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Restrict_merging_rights_to_autoconfirmed_users - Change "Nearby" link to list items nearby the item? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Change_.22Nearby.22_link_to_list_items_nearby_the_item.3F - New request for comments: P31 or P279 for geo-objects https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/P31_or_P279_for_geo-objects
Events https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events/ Press/Blogs https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Press_coverage
- Upcoming: Wikifying Westminster https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikifying-westminster-workshop-tickets-36864455579: Wikidata workshop around UK political data, August 19th, London - Past: Wikimania, Wikimedia hackathon. A lot of things happened during these events, reports and news should be published in the next days. - Exploring the world with Wikidata and OpenStreetMap https://blog.mapbox.com/exploring-the-world-with-wikidata-and-openstreetmap-30f1bfe954d3, by Mapbox - Enriching catalogue pages in Evergreen with Wikidata https://coffeecode.net/enriching-catalogue-pages-in-evergreen-with-wikidata.html by Dan Scott - Why data partners should link their vocabulary to Wikidata: a new case study http://pro.europeana.eu/blogpost/why-data-partners-should-link-their-vocabulary-to-wikidata-a-new-case-study on Europeana blog
Wikimania
- You can try the demo system for lexicographical data https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Wiktionary#Talk_at_Wikimania_and_demo_page - Talk: Structured Commons: what changes are coming? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Structured_Data_on_Commons_-_What_changes_are_coming%3F_-_presentation_at_Wikimania_2017.pdf by Sandra Fauconnier - Talk: New Frontier: Using Wikidata on Commons https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Using_Wikidata_on_Commons_-_August_2017.pdf by Jarekt - List of wishes https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Wikidata_Pink_Pony_Session#Notes during the "Wikidata pink pony session" - Talk: the (Wiki)data (R)evolution https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2017_-_The_%28Wiki%29Data_%28R%29Evolution.pdf, by Lydia Pintscher - Talk: Wikidata and performing arts https://www.slideshare.net/beatestermann/wikidata-and-performingarts20170811 by Beat Estermann during Wikimania - Talk: How to use Wikidata in infoboxes https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_and_infoboxes_panel.pdf (panel) - New template: A fully automated template system was presented: Oh!WTFs https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_and_infoboxes#Theklan:_Automatic_infoboxes_with_Wikidata - Talk: WikiCite: Citations needed for the sum of all human knowledge https://figshare.com/articles/WikiCite_Citations_needed_for_the_sum_of_all_human_knowledge/5306122/1 - Notes about the Wikispecies & Wikidata session https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimania2017-Wikispecies%2BWikidata - Documents to organize a Wikidata translathon: level 1 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_translathon_worshop_2017_Level_1_instructions.pdf, level 2 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_translathon_worshop_2017_Level_2_instructions.pdf, level 3 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_translathon_worshop_2017_Level_3_instructions.pdf (by Kvardek_du) and the translathon tool http://tools.dicare.org/translathon/ (by Envel) - Talk: Sum of all paintings is just the start https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:Sum_of_all_paintings_is_just_the_start_Wikimania_2017.pdf, by Multichill
Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Share your feedback on the *draft strategic direction https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Direction*, a basis on which strategic plans will be built. - Wikidata reached Q36000000 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q36000000. The number of items has been increased by 20% in less than three months
Did you know?
- Newest properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListProperties: YCBA agent ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4169, IEDB Epitope ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4168, Dagens Næringsliv topic ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4167, Georgian National Register of Monuments ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4166, CODECS ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4165, National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4164, magnification https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4163, AUR package https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4162, Michelin Voyages ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4161, Michelin Restaurants ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4160, WeRelate person ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4159, autores.ar id https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4158, MEG ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4157, Czech Registration ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4156, separator https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4155, National Forest Foundation ID https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4154 - Query examples: - Most-depicted musical instruments https://query.wikidata.org/#%23%20most-depicted%20musical%20instruments%0ASELECT%20%3Finstrument%20%3FinstrumentLabel%20%28COUNT%28DISTINCT%20%3Fwork%29%20AS%20%3Fcount%29%20%28SAMPLE%28%3Fimage%29%20AS%20%3FsampleImage%29%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fwork%20wdt%3AP180%20%3Finstrument.%0A%20%20%3Finstrument%20wdt%3AP279%2B%20wd%3AQ34379.%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fwork%20wdt%3AP18%20%3Fimage.%20%7D%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Finstrument%20%3FinstrumentLabel%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3Fcount%29 (source https://twitter.com/WikidataFacts/status/896146542507114496) - People who died in 2017 without a French label https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3Fdod%20%3FitemLabel%20%3FitemDescription%20%3Fnom%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP570%20%3Fdod%20.%0A%09FILTER%20%28%20%3Fdod%20%3E%3D%20%222017-01-01T00%3A00%3A00Z%22%5E%5Exsd%3AdateTime%20%26%26%20%3Fdod%20%3C%3D%20%222017-12-31T00%3A00%3A00Z%22%5E%5Exsd%3AdateTime%20%29%0A%20%20%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%20.%0A%20%20%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP569%20%3Fv%20%7D%0A%20%20%09OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP1559%20%3Fnom%20%7D%0A%20FILTER%28NOT%20EXISTS%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%3Fitem%20rdfs%3Alabel%20%3Flang_label.%0A%20%20%20FILTER%28LANG%28%3Flang_label%29%20%3D%20%22fr%22%29%0A%20%7D%29%0A%09SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%2C%20%22nl%22%2C%20%22it%22%2C%20%22ru%22%2C%20%22ja%22.%20%7D%20%20%0A%7D (source https://twitter.com/Harmonia_Amanda/status/896816010577227776) - Moar goats https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Goats%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3Fimage%0AWHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20%3Fgoats.%0A%20%20%0A%20%20VALUES%20%3Fgoats%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20wd%3AQ2934%0A%20%20%20%20wd%3AQ172923%0A%20%20%20%20wd%3AQ27713372%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP18%20%3Fimage%20.%20%7D%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D (source https://twitter.com/ash_crow/status/896224747155058689) - Newest WikiProjects https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:WikiProjects: WikiProject Goats https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Goats, WikiProject Torture https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Torture - Newest external tools: WD edits stats https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/wd_edit_stats.php counting edits mades on a certain dataset between two dates
Development
Most of the team was at Wikimania, talking to people, getting meaningful input from the editors, giving talks, hacking around :)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R. Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above. - Comment on property proposals: all open proposals https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Overview - Suggested and open tasks https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contribute/Suggested_and_open_tasks ! - Contribute to a Showcase item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Showcase_items . - Help translate https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:LanguageStats or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language! - Help merge identical items https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Pasleim/projectmerge across Wikimedia projects. - Help write the next summary! https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next
I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID
The property has been discussed here on the mailing list more than a year ago, but apparently never got to the point of a property suggestion: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-April/008517.html
I am wondering how the potential property fits in with the new development of the Wiktionary-Wikidata link. As far as I see the senses, for instance, at http://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Lexeme:L15 link to wikidata-lexeme Q-items, which I suppose is Wikidata Q items once the new development is put into the production system. So with my understanding linking Wikidata Q-items to Wordnet synsets is correct. Is my understanding correct?
Finn Årup Nielsen http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/
That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out to be.
Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and Wikipedia?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM fn@imm.dtu.dk wrote:
I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID
The property has been discussed here on the mailing list more than a year ago, but apparently never got to the point of a property suggestion: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-April/008517.html
I am wondering how the potential property fits in with the new development of the Wiktionary-Wikidata link. As far as I see the senses, for instance, at http://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Lexeme:L15 link to wikidata-lexeme Q-items, which I suppose is Wikidata Q items once the new development is put into the production system. So with my understanding linking Wikidata Q-items to Wordnet synsets is correct. Is my understanding correct?
Finn Årup Nielsen http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
I do not think we have a Wiktionary-wordnet link.
But I forgot to write we have a BabelNet Wikidata property, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2581. This property has been very little used: http://tinyurl.com/y8npwsm5
There might be a Wikimedia-Wordnet indirect link through BabelNet
/Finn
On 08/15/2017 07:22 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out to be.
Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and Wikipedia?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM <fn@imm.dtu.dk mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk> wrote:
I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID The property has been discussed here on the mailing list more than a year ago, but apparently never got to the point of a property suggestion: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-April/008517.html I am wondering how the potential property fits in with the new development of the Wiktionary-Wikidata link. As far as I see the senses, for instance, at http://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Lexeme:L15 link to wikidata-lexeme Q-items, which I suppose is Wikidata Q items once the new development is put into the production system. So with my understanding linking Wikidata Q-items to Wordnet synsets is correct. Is my understanding correct? Finn Årup Nielsen http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/ _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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Does BabelNet have more links than that? Shall we ask Roberto if they would provide a mapping that Wikidata can ingest?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:34 AM Finn Aarup Nielsen fn@imm.dtu.dk wrote:
I do not think we have a Wiktionary-wordnet link.
But I forgot to write we have a BabelNet Wikidata property, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2581. This property has been very little used: http://tinyurl.com/y8npwsm5
There might be a Wikimedia-Wordnet indirect link through BabelNet
/Finn
On 08/15/2017 07:22 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out to
be.
Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and Wikipedia?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM <fn@imm.dtu.dk mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk> wrote:
I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here:https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID
The property has been discussed here on the mailing list more than a year ago, but apparently never got to the point of a property suggestion:https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-April/008517.html
I am wondering how the potential property fits in with the new development of the Wiktionary-Wikidata link. As far as I see thesenses,
for instance, athttp://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Lexeme:L15
link to wikidata-lexeme Q-items, which I suppose is Wikidata Q items once the new development is put into the production system. So withmy
understanding linking Wikidata Q-items to Wordnet synsets iscorrect. Is
my understanding correct? Finn Årup Nielsen http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/ _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Hi everyone,
I asked a related question during the presentation at Wikimania: my understanding is that Ontolex/Lemon [1, 2] was used to model the Wikidata lexicographical items. WordNet was discarded, as it has an older model. Best,
Marco
[1] https://www.w3.org/2016/05/ontolex/ [2] http://lemon-model.net/
On 8/15/17 23:39, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out
to be.
Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and Wikipedia?
One problem with BabelNet is that its licence is restrictive, being the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0) license. Downloading BabelNet is even more restrictive, requiring also working at a research institution.
Yago http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/departments/databases-and-information-systems/rese... , which has the less restrictive license Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0), has links between Wikipedia categories and Wordnet. Unfortunately, it does not carry these links through to regular Wikipedia pages. I've been toying with making this last connection, which would be easy for those categories that a linked to Wikipedia page.
Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance Communications
PS: Strangely the Yago logo has a non-commercial license. I don't know why this was done.
On 08/15/2017 10:32 AM, Finn Aarup Nielsen wrote:
I do not think we have a Wiktionary-wordnet link.
But I forgot to write we have a BabelNet Wikidata property, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2581. This property has been very little used: http://tinyurl.com/y8npwsm5
There might be a Wikimedia-Wordnet indirect link through BabelNet
/Finn
On 08/15/2017 07:22 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out to be.
Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and Wikipedia?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM <fn@imm.dtu.dk mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk> wrote:
I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID The property has been discussed here on the mailing list more than a year ago, but apparently never got to the point of a property suggestion: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-April/008517.html I am wondering how the potential property fits in with the new development of the Wiktionary-Wikidata link. As far as I see the senses, for instance, at http://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Lexeme:L15 link to wikidata-lexeme Q-items, which I suppose is Wikidata Q items once the new development is put into the production system. So with my understanding linking Wikidata Q-items to Wordnet synsets is correct. Is my understanding correct? Finn Årup Nielsen http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/ _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
I think we could ask either Yago or BabelNet or both whether they would be receptive to release their mappings under a CC0 license, so it can be integrated into Wikidata. What I wonder is, if they do that, whether we wanted to have that data or not.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:18 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider < pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
One problem with BabelNet is that its licence is restrictive, being the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0) license. Downloading BabelNet is even more restrictive, requiring also working at a research institution.
Yago
http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/departments/databases-and-information-systems/rese... , which has the less restrictive license Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0), has links between Wikipedia categories and Wordnet. Unfortunately, it does not carry these links through to regular Wikipedia pages. I've been toying with making this last connection, which would be easy for those categories that a linked to Wikipedia page.
Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance Communications
PS: Strangely the Yago logo has a non-commercial license. I don't know why this was done.
On 08/15/2017 10:32 AM, Finn Aarup Nielsen wrote:
I do not think we have a Wiktionary-wordnet link.
But I forgot to write we have a BabelNet Wikidata property, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2581. This property has been
very
little used: http://tinyurl.com/y8npwsm5
There might be a Wikimedia-Wordnet indirect link through BabelNet
/Finn
On 08/15/2017 07:22 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out
to be.
Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and Wikipedia?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM <fn@imm.dtu.dk mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk>
wrote:
I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here:https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID
The property has been discussed here on the mailing list more than a year ago, but apparently never got to the point of a property suggestion:https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-April/008517.html
I am wondering how the potential property fits in with the new development of the Wiktionary-Wikidata link. As far as I see thesenses,
for instance, athttp://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Lexeme:L15
link to wikidata-lexeme Q-items, which I suppose is Wikidata Q items once the new development is put into the production system. So withmy
understanding linking Wikidata Q-items to Wordnet synsets iscorrect. Is
my understanding correct? Finn Årup Nielsen http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/ _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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I think that it depends on just what data is used from them.
I've looked a bit at the Yago data. The mappings from Wikipedia categories to WordNet synsets are pretty good, although there will be some errors. The instance relationships are less good as they are just the Wikipedia category membership relationships, which are known to have problems.
So I would think that what to get from Yago is the Wikipedia to Wordnet mappings, not the instance relationships.
I haven't looked at BabelNet much. My expectation is that they will have more mappings but maybe at the price of more errors.
If there is a desire to have a mapping from Wikidata to Wordnet, the only reason to not want to use of these efforts as a start is the quality of their mapping. Perhaps one option is to repeat something along the lines of what they did but more closely tailored to the situation in Wikidata.
peter
On 08/21/2017 07:56 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
I think we could ask either Yago or BabelNet or both whether they would be receptive to release their mappings under a CC0 license, so it can be integrated into Wikidata. What I wonder is, if they do that, whether we wanted to have that data or not.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:18 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
One problem with BabelNet is that its licence is restrictive, being the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0) license. Downloading BabelNet is even more restrictive, requiring also working at a research institution. Yago http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/departments/databases-and-information-systems/research/yago-naga/yago/ , which has the less restrictive license Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0), has links between Wikipedia categories and Wordnet. Unfortunately, it does not carry these links through to regular Wikipedia pages. I've been toying with making this last connection, which would be easy for those categories that a linked to Wikipedia page. Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance Communications PS: Strangely the Yago logo has a non-commercial license. I don't know why this was done. On 08/15/2017 10:32 AM, Finn Aarup Nielsen wrote: > > I do not think we have a Wiktionary-wordnet link. > > But I forgot to write we have a BabelNet Wikidata property, > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2581. This property has been very > little used: http://tinyurl.com/y8npwsm5 > > There might be a Wikimedia-Wordnet indirect link through BabelNet > > /Finn > > > On 08/15/2017 07:22 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: >> That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out to be. >> >> Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and >> Wikipedia? >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM <fn@imm.dtu.dk <mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk> <mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk <mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here: >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID >> >> The property has been discussed here on the mailing list more than a >> year ago, but apparently never got to the point of a property >> suggestion: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-April/008517.html >> >> I am wondering how the potential property fits in with the new >> development of the Wiktionary-Wikidata link. As far as I see the senses, >> for instance, at http://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Lexeme:L15 >> link to wikidata-lexeme Q-items, which I suppose is Wikidata Q items >> once the new development is put into the production system. So with my >> understanding linking Wikidata Q-items to Wordnet synsets is correct. Is >> my understanding correct? >> >> >> Finn Årup Nielsen >> http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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I have written an email to Roberto Navigli of BabelNet and asked him about BabelNet and Wikidata, particularly about mass-upload.
Finn Årup Nielsen http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/
On 08/21/2017 04:56 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
I think we could ask either Yago or BabelNet or both whether they would be receptive to release their mappings under a CC0 license, so it can be integrated into Wikidata. What I wonder is, if they do that, whether we wanted to have that data or not.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:18 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
One problem with BabelNet is that its licence is restrictive, being the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0) license. Downloading BabelNet is even more restrictive, requiring also working at a research institution. Yago http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/departments/databases-and-information-systems/research/yago-naga/yago/ , which has the less restrictive license Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0), has links between Wikipedia categories and Wordnet. Unfortunately, it does not carry these links through to regular Wikipedia pages. I've been toying with making this last connection, which would be easy for those categories that a linked to Wikipedia page. Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance Communications PS: Strangely the Yago logo has a non-commercial license. I don't know why this was done. On 08/15/2017 10:32 AM, Finn Aarup Nielsen wrote: > > I do not think we have a Wiktionary-wordnet link. > > But I forgot to write we have a BabelNet Wikidata property, > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2581. This property has been very > little used: http://tinyurl.com/y8npwsm5 > > There might be a Wikimedia-Wordnet indirect link through BabelNet > > /Finn > > > On 08/15/2017 07:22 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: >> That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out to be. >> >> Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and >> Wikipedia? >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM <fn@imm.dtu.dk <mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk> <mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk <mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here: >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID >> >> The property has been discussed here on the mailing list more than a >> year ago, but apparently never got to the point of a property >> suggestion: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-April/008517.html >> >> I am wondering how the potential property fits in with the new >> development of the Wiktionary-Wikidata link. As far as I see the senses, >> for instance, at http://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Lexeme:L15 >> link to wikidata-lexeme Q-items, which I suppose is Wikidata Q items >> once the new development is put into the production system. So with my >> understanding linking Wikidata Q-items to Wordnet synsets is correct. Is >> my understanding correct? >> >> >> Finn Årup Nielsen >> http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Finn, Denny and All,
If an academic linguistic researcher, or a computational linguist, for example, wanted to added another language to Wikidata/Wikibase/Wikipedia's 295 languages (7,099 living languages minus 295 Wikipedia languages = 6804 remaining living languages), say, in the new - https://wiki. worlduniversityandschool.org/ - which is planning wiki universities and schools for open teaching and learning in all 7,099 languages+, how would they please do this?
Either in Wordnet - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID - or -
Wikidata-lexeme - http://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Main_Page - or -
Babelnet - or -
(or possibly anticipating Google Neural Machine Translation and TensorFlow at some point) ?
Thank you, Scott
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:34 AM, fn@imm.dtu.dk wrote:
I have written an email to Roberto Navigli of BabelNet and asked him about BabelNet and Wikidata, particularly about mass-upload.
Finn Årup Nielsen http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/
On 08/21/2017 04:56 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote:
I think we could ask either Yago or BabelNet or both whether they would be receptive to release their mappings under a CC0 license, so it can be integrated into Wikidata. What I wonder is, if they do that, whether we wanted to have that data or not.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:18 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider < pfpschneider@gmail.com mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
One problem with BabelNet is that its licence is restrictive, being the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-SA3.0) license. Downloading BabelNet is even more restrictive, requiring also working at a research institution.
Yago http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/departments/databases-and-information-systems/research/yago-naga/yago/ , which has the less restrictive license Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0), has links between Wikipedia categories and Wordnet. Unfortunately, it does not carry these links through to regular Wikipedia pages. I've been toying with making this last connection, which would be easy for those categories that a linked to Wikipedia page.
Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance Communications PS: Strangely the Yago logo has a non-commercial license. I don't know why this was done. On 08/15/2017 10:32 AM, Finn Aarup Nielsen wrote: > > I do not think we have a Wiktionary-wordnet link. > > But I forgot to write we have a BabelNet Wikidata property, > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2581. This property has been very > little used: http://tinyurl.com/y8npwsm5 > > There might be a Wikimedia-Wordnet indirect link through BabelNet > > /Finn > > > On 08/15/2017 07:22 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: >> That's a great question, I have no idea what the answer will turn out to be. >> >> Is there any current link between Wiktionary and WordNet? Or WordNet and >> Wikipedia? >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM <fn@imm.dtu.dk <mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk> <mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk <mailto:fn@imm.dtu.dk>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> I have proposed a Wordnet synset property here: >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Wordnet_synset_ID >> >> The property has been discussed here on the mailing list more than a >> year ago, but apparently never got to the point of a property >> suggestion: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2016-April/008517.html >> >> I am wondering how the potential property fits in with the new >> development of the Wiktionary-Wikidata link. As far as I see the senses, >> for instance, at http://wikidata-lexeme.wmflabs.org/index.php/Lexeme:L15 >> link to wikidata-lexeme Q-items, which I suppose is Wikidata Q items >> once the new development is put into the production system. So with my >> understanding linking Wikidata Q-items to Wordnet synsets is correct. Is >> my understanding correct? >> >> >> Finn Årup Nielsen >> http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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