Hey everyone :)
I just posted exciting news about structured data support for Commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data#It.27s_alive... *SPOILER* There is a first demo system now! *SPOILER*
Cheers Lydia
YES!
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:02 PM Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Hey everyone :)
I just posted exciting news about structured data support for Commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data#It.27s_alive... *SPOILER* There is a first demo system now! *SPOILER*
Cheers Lydia
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👍🕶👍
On 28 July 2016 at 18:10, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
YES!
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:02 PM Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Hey everyone :)
I just posted exciting news about structured data support for Commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data#It.27s_alive... *SPOILER* There is a first demo system now! *SPOILER*
Cheers Lydia
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Oh, sing osannah! :D
L.
2016-07-28 18:10 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
YES!
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:02 PM Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey everyone :)
I just posted exciting news about structured data support for Commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data#It.27s_alive... *SPOILER* There is a first demo system now! *SPOILER*
Cheers Lydia
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So GREAT! :)
Scott
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Luca Martinelli martinelliluca@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, sing osannah! :D
L.
2016-07-28 18:10 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
YES!
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:02 PM Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey everyone :)
I just posted exciting news about structured data support for Commons at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data#It.27s_alive...
*SPOILER* There is a first demo system now! *SPOILER*
Cheers Lydia
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Fantastic! Is the data from the mediainfo supposed to appear on the file page? Or is it meant to be independent?
Cheers, Micru
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So GREAT! :)
Scott
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Luca Martinelli <martinelliluca@gmail.com
wrote:
Oh, sing osannah! :D
L.
2016-07-28 18:10 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
YES!
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 5:02 PM Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey everyone :)
I just posted exciting news about structured data support for Commons at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data#It.27s_alive...
*SPOILER* There is a first demo system now! *SPOILER*
Cheers Lydia
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 6:49 PM, David Cuenca Tudela dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
Fantastic! Is the data from the mediainfo supposed to appear on the file page? Or is it meant to be independent?
The plan is to merge it into the file page.
Cheers Lydia
This is a great development. Not sure if this is helpful to discuss here or if it is preferrable on the Structured data page? Please advise and I will copy info there. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data
In May 2015, Wikimedia NYC supported an editathon with the Guggenheim here in NYC where the Guggenheim donated 100 images to Wikimedia Commons as part of a GLAM initiative. Images: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Guggenheim_Museum_May_2015#Ga...
Pharos added some really great metadata to these image pages, which might be helpful as a guide for what might be the most deluxe type of Commons page info breakout -- at least it seems pretty deluxe that to me. :-) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GUGG_Dynamism_of_a_Speeding_Horse_%2...
As far as discoverability goes, I think that the use of categories on Commons is mission critical. I see this requested feature is noted on this project page. Personally, I don't love the flatness of the category system on Commons (or Wikipedia actually) because it's not especially faceted, but I think that this "legacy" issue should be very clearly integrated as this project develops.There are so many images available on Commons but finding them is a problem. The file name is often not descriptive enough, and the metadata might be incomplete or poor. So integration with Wikidata is key, but again, discoverability is even more important. Otherwise it's just unlabeled jars on the wall.
And to be a total pain, have existing library resources, like the *A&A Thesaurus* from the Getty, been consulted to provide controlled vocabularies and possible copy catalog potential? Getty Art & Architecture Thesaurus: http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/aat/ example: http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300021368
I'm not a working librarian but I think there are multiple semantic resources for artwork, especially. I remember this one from grad school....
I am cc'ing on of Wikimedia NYC's very active Commons contributor here, Jim.henderson. I am sure this will be of great interest to folks who contribute a lot of Commons images and editing.
Well done!
Best,
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle*
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 6:49 PM, David Cuenca Tudela dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
Fantastic! Is the data from the mediainfo supposed to appear on the file page? Or is it meant to be independent?
The plan is to merge it into the file page.
Cheers Lydia
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On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
This is a great development. Not sure if this is helpful to discuss here or if it is preferrable on the Structured data page? Please advise and I will copy info there. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data
In May 2015, Wikimedia NYC supported an editathon with the Guggenheim here in NYC where the Guggenheim donated 100 images to Wikimedia Commons as part of a GLAM initiative. Images: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Guggenheim_Museum_May_2015#Ga...
Pharos added some really great metadata to these image pages, which might be helpful as a guide for what might be the most deluxe type of Commons page info breakout -- at least it seems pretty deluxe that to me. :-) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GUGG_Dynamism_of_a_Speeding_Horse_%2...
Thanks. Stuff like that is useful to have as examples.
As far as discoverability goes, I think that the use of categories on Commons is mission critical. I see this requested feature is noted on this project page. Personally, I don't love the flatness of the category system on Commons (or Wikipedia actually) because it's not especially faceted, but I think that this "legacy" issue should be very clearly integrated as this project develops.There are so many images available on Commons but finding them is a problem. The file name is often not descriptive enough, and the metadata might be incomplete or poor. So integration with Wikidata is key, but again, discoverability is even more important. Otherwise it's just unlabeled jars on the wall.
And to be a total pain, have existing library resources, like the A&A Thesaurus from the Getty, been consulted to provide controlled vocabularies and possible copy catalog potential? Getty Art & Architecture Thesaurus: http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/aat/ example: http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300021368
I'm not a working librarian but I think there are multiple semantic resources for artwork, especially. I remember this one from grad school....
We will be using Wikidata's vocabulary (items and properties) as that has a lot of advantages here. However a lot of that is already connected to A&A Thesaurus and others. So we're pretty flexible there for different usecases.
Cheers Lydia
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Thanks. Stuff like that is useful to have as examples.
If it's possible to engage some of the GLAM institutions here in NYC and around the world in doing donations like this, I know I for one would like to strongly promote and support this type of Wikidata+Commons-focused initiative. I think other chapters might be able to integrate this into ongoing initiatives and annual editathons that are in the GLAM-o-sphere.... We have some coming up this Fall but that is probably too soon? Is there a tentative timeframe for this project? I see a lot of work was done in 2014.
*WM NYC Planning Stages: Future Events* [TENTATIVE]
- *AfroCROWD @ MoCADA’s Soul of Brooklyn Festival.* Day, August Date TBD, 2016 - *Council on Foreign Relations.* Tuesday, September 6, 2016 - *Textiles Editathon @ FIT.* Thursday, September 22, 27, or 29, 2016 - *Open House New York (OHNY) Photo Competition + Hackathon.* Saturday & Sunday, October 15-16, 2016 - *WikiArte @ MoMA.* Saturday, October 22, 2016 -- Latin American art with Fundación Cisneros/Colección Patricia Phelps de Cisneros (FC/CPPC) -- last year's event https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/WikiArte/MoMA_2015 - *Asian American Editathon @ Guggenheim.* Thursday, November 10, 2016 -- part of possible Smithsonian Asian American Art initiative http://smithsonianapa.org/wiki/
And to be a total pain, have existing library resources, like the A&A Thesaurus from the Getty, been consulted to provide controlled
vocabularies
and possible copy catalog potential? Getty Art & Architecture Thesaurus: http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/aat/ example: http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300021368
I'm not a working librarian but I think there are multiple semantic resources for artwork, especially. I remember this one from grad
school....
We will be using Wikidata's vocabulary (items and properties) as that has a lot of advantages here. However a lot of that is already connected to A&A Thesaurus and others. So we're pretty flexible there for different usecases.
Oh good. Very glad to hear.
Thanks Lydia!
- Erika
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de wrote:
Thanks. Stuff like that is useful to have as examples.
If it's possible to engage some of the GLAM institutions here in NYC and around the world in doing donations like this, I know I for one would like to strongly promote and support this type of Wikidata+Commons-focused initiative. I think other chapters might be able to integrate this into ongoing initiatives and annual editathons that are in the GLAM-o-sphere.... We have some coming up this Fall but that is probably too soon? Is there a tentative timeframe for this project? I see a lot of work was done in 2014.
We definitely need to talk more to institutions as we make progress, yeah. I'll ping when we've reached a good development state for that. As for timeline: I am hesitant to make any predictions because there are a lot of unknowns - technical and social. For one the Commons community has to not think this is a terrible idea ;-)
Cheers Lydia
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de wrote:
Thanks. Stuff like that is useful to have as examples.
If it's possible to engage some of the GLAM institutions here in NYC and around the world in doing donations like this, I know I for one would
like
to strongly promote and support this type of Wikidata+Commons-focused initiative. I think other chapters might be able to integrate this into ongoing initiatives and annual editathons that are in the
GLAM-o-sphere....
We have some coming up this Fall but that is probably too soon? Is there
a
tentative timeframe for this project? I see a lot of work was done in
We definitely need to talk more to institutions as we make progress, yeah. I'll ping when we've reached a good development state for that. As for timeline: I am hesitant to make any predictions because there are a lot of unknowns - technical and social. For one the Commons community has to not think this is a terrible idea ;-)
Ha!
As long as it doesn't depreciate and force folks onto Wikidata (like Authority Control) -- if it's so pretty like this one Pharos did, maybe they could be convinced! :-)
Thanks again, Lydia!
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle*
So great!
Lydia, our approach in the digitization program will be really benefited with this.
here are more examples:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Uploaded_via_Campaign:AAL%C2%A0 (all the books in this category have a complete description, some of them in wikidata also)
And from other donation we have: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fil e:Playa_de_Scheveningen_-_Adriaen_van_de_Velde.jpg (work in progress to have the 800 images like that one)
Thanks :)
El jue, 28-07-2016 a las 20:13 +0200, Lydia Pintscher escribió:
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com
wrote:
This is a great development. Not sure if this is helpful to discuss
here or
if it is preferrable on the Structured data page? Please advise and
I will
copy info there. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data
In May 2015, Wikimedia NYC supported an editathon with the
Guggenheim here
in NYC where the Guggenheim donated 100 images to Wikimedia Commons
as part
of a GLAM initiative. Images:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Guggenheim_Museum_Ma
y_2015#Gallery
Pharos added some really great metadata to these image pages, which
might be
helpful as a guide for what might be the most deluxe type of
Commons page
info breakout -- at least it seems pretty deluxe that to me. :-)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GUGG_Dynamism_of_a_Speeding
_Horse_%2B_Houses.jpg
Thanks. Stuff like that is useful to have as examples.
As far as discoverability goes, I think that the use of categories
on
Commons is mission critical. I see this requested feature is noted
on this
project page. Personally, I don't love the flatness of the category
system
on Commons (or Wikipedia actually) because it's not especially
faceted, but
I think that this "legacy" issue should be very clearly integrated
as this
project develops.There are so many images available on Commons but
finding
them is a problem. The file name is often not descriptive enough,
and the
metadata might be incomplete or poor. So integration with Wikidata
is key,
but again, discoverability is even more important. Otherwise it's
just
unlabeled jars on the wall.
And to be a total pain, have existing library resources, like the
A&A
Thesaurus from the Getty, been consulted to provide controlled
vocabularies
and possible copy catalog potential? Getty Art & Architecture Thesaurus: http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/aat/ example: http://vocab.getty.edu/aat/300021368
I'm not a working librarian but I think there are multiple semantic
resources for artwork, especially. I remember this one from grad
school....
We will be using Wikidata's vocabulary (items and properties) as that has a lot of advantages here. However a lot of that is already connected to A&A Thesaurus and others. So we're pretty flexible there for different usecases.
Cheers Lydia
-- Mauricio Vidal Genta Coordinador del proyecto de digitalización A. C. Wikimedia Argentina