Do we have statistics on how many aliases we have compared to the redirects in Wikipedia and Wikiquote, especially for proper names? I'd suppose that all redirects have been imported by now.
Aliases are a rather efficient way to store redirects for names which are used in many forms. My only problem is that there is no way to add an alias for languages, e.g. Latin names of learned people; but I hope search does or will remedy by searching in all languages anyway.
Nemo
I've seen countless inaccurate aliases 'inferred' from redirects by bots. Let's not do that anymore.
Il 19/06/2015 08:57, Federico Leva (Nemo) ha scritto:
Do we have statistics on how many aliases we have compared to the redirects in Wikipedia and Wikiquote, especially for proper names? I'd suppose that all redirects have been imported by now.
Aliases are a rather efficient way to store redirects for names which are used in many forms. My only problem is that there is no way to add an alias for languages, e.g. Latin names of learned people; but I hope search does or will remedy by searching in all languages anyway.
Nemo
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Yes often whole families of people get redirected to a biography of one member of that family - automatic assumption that all redirects to an article refer to the subject of the article is wrong. Alternate spellings of names used to be in the persondata template, and that has now been discontinued. I expect there will be some work to fix any lost alternate spellings, but at least the alternate spellings will be visible for other languages now, so it will be easy to reuse them for other languages if that is considered desirable on a case by case basis (for example, for some languages, only the last name was latinized)
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisamoa@openmailbox.org wrote:
I've seen countless inaccurate aliases 'inferred' from redirects by bots. Let's not do that anymore.
Il 19/06/2015 08:57, Federico Leva (Nemo) ha scritto:
Do we have statistics on how many aliases we have compared to the redirects in Wikipedia and Wikiquote, especially for proper names? I'd suppose that all redirects have been imported by now.
Aliases are a rather efficient way to store redirects for names which are used in many forms. My only problem is that there is no way to add an alias for languages, e.g. Latin names of learned people; but I hope search does or will remedy by searching in all languages anyway.
Nemo
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Ricordisamoa, 19/06/2015 09:07:
I've seen countless inaccurate aliases 'inferred' from redirects by bots.
And I've seen countless simple searches failing due to lack of obvious redirects/aliases. Are there reasons to believe that redirects are in majority bad aliases? (Surely there can be some obvious filtering.) Are there other good sources for aliases? (Perhaps we can mass-import alternate names from VIAF etc.)
Nemo
Enwiki uses a fairly extensive system of marking up redirects:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_alternative_names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_alternative_spellings
(etc)
Not all redirects by any means are there, but it would be a good way of identifying "pre-cleared" ones for import.
Andrew.
On 19 June 2015 at 08:53, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
Ricordisamoa, 19/06/2015 09:07:
I've seen countless inaccurate aliases 'inferred' from redirects by bots.
And I've seen countless simple searches failing due to lack of obvious redirects/aliases. Are there reasons to believe that redirects are in majority bad aliases? (Surely there can be some obvious filtering.) Are there other good sources for aliases? (Perhaps we can mass-import alternate names from VIAF etc.)
Nemo
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