Hi!
Right now we have SPARQL query examples page in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/SPARQL_Query_Examples, and it gathered a large amount of excellent contributions (for which I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everybody who helped!)
However, MediaWiki site is really not the best wiki for this page - it should properly be on Wikidata IMO. And we have a copy of it on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_examples - except that is is not up-to-date, is still not used by WDQS GUI and many people don't actually know it exists.
So, I'd like to propose a migration plan:
0. Put a message on MediaWiki page warning of migration and directing people to use Wikidata one. Maybe even protect the page for a short time? This of course will be done only after we decide to perform the migration.
1. Sync Wikidata page to MediaWiki one (that'll require some work due to template differences, etc. but I can do it in a couple of hours).
2. Switch WDQS GUI to use the Wikidata page.
3. Replace MediaWiki page with redirect to wikidata one with appropriate message.
I can do all of it (except maybe for protecting part, I'd need to ask some admins I guess), but I wanted to make a public announcement / request for feedback before doing anything big. So please comment if you see any problem with the proposed plan or any objections. If no objections are raised, I currently plan to do it sometime about Wed-Thu this week.
Thanks,
Hello Stas,
Sounds like a good idea :)
Don't hesitate to ask if you need any help, for the migration as for the communication / announcement.
Bests,
On 19 September 2016 at 22:44, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
Right now we have SPARQL query examples page in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/SPARQL_Query_Examples, and it gathered a large amount of excellent contributions (for which I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everybody who helped!)
However, MediaWiki site is really not the best wiki for this page - it should properly be on Wikidata IMO. And we have a copy of it on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_examples - except that is is not up-to-date, is still not used by WDQS GUI and many people don't actually know it exists.
So, I'd like to propose a migration plan:
- Put a message on MediaWiki page warning of migration and directing
people to use Wikidata one. Maybe even protect the page for a short time? This of course will be done only after we decide to perform the migration.
- Sync Wikidata page to MediaWiki one (that'll require some work due to
template differences, etc. but I can do it in a couple of hours).
Switch WDQS GUI to use the Wikidata page.
Replace MediaWiki page with redirect to wikidata one with appropriate
message.
I can do all of it (except maybe for protecting part, I'd need to ask some admins I guess), but I wanted to make a public announcement / request for feedback before doing anything big. So please comment if you see any problem with the proposed plan or any objections. If no objections are raised, I currently plan to do it sometime about Wed-Thu this week.
Thanks,
Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
+1 for this move ! :)
On 20 September 2016 at 09:40, Léa Lacroix lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello Stas,
Sounds like a good idea :)
Don't hesitate to ask if you need any help, for the migration as for the communication / announcement.
Bests,
On 19 September 2016 at 22:44, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
Right now we have SPARQL query examples page in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/SPARQL_Query_Examples, and it gathered a large amount of excellent contributions (for which I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everybody who helped!)
However, MediaWiki site is really not the best wiki for this page - it should properly be on Wikidata IMO. And we have a copy of it on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_examples - except that is is not up-to-date, is still not used by WDQS GUI and many people don't actually know it exists.
So, I'd like to propose a migration plan:
- Put a message on MediaWiki page warning of migration and directing
people to use Wikidata one. Maybe even protect the page for a short time? This of course will be done only after we decide to perform the migration.
- Sync Wikidata page to MediaWiki one (that'll require some work due to
template differences, etc. but I can do it in a couple of hours).
Switch WDQS GUI to use the Wikidata page.
Replace MediaWiki page with redirect to wikidata one with appropriate
message.
I can do all of it (except maybe for protecting part, I'd need to ask some admins I guess), but I wanted to make a public announcement / request for feedback before doing anything big. So please comment if you see any problem with the proposed plan or any objections. If no objections are raised, I currently plan to do it sometime about Wed-Thu this week.
Thanks,
Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org
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Good plan! Does that mean I should refrain from adding new examples until the move materialized?
Also, as an avid user of the example page, can I help? Cheers
On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
Right now we have SPARQL query examples page in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/SPARQL_Query_Examples, and it gathered a large amount of excellent contributions (for which I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everybody who helped!)
However, MediaWiki site is really not the best wiki for this page - it should properly be on Wikidata IMO. And we have a copy of it on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_examples - except that is is not up-to-date, is still not used by WDQS GUI and many people don't actually know it exists.
So, I'd like to propose a migration plan:
- Put a message on MediaWiki page warning of migration and directing
people to use Wikidata one. Maybe even protect the page for a short time? This of course will be done only after we decide to perform the migration.
- Sync Wikidata page to MediaWiki one (that'll require some work due to
template differences, etc. but I can do it in a couple of hours).
Switch WDQS GUI to use the Wikidata page.
Replace MediaWiki page with redirect to wikidata one with appropriate
message.
I can do all of it (except maybe for protecting part, I'd need to ask some admins I guess), but I wanted to make a public announcement / request for feedback before doing anything big. So please comment if you see any problem with the proposed plan or any objections. If no objections are raised, I currently plan to do it sometime about Wed-Thu this week.
Thanks,
Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Hi!
Good plan! Does that mean I should refrain from adding new examples until the move materialized?
If you could hold it until the end of the week, by which time it should be done, it helps. Not a huge deal - I'll make a pass over all content to see if everything is ok anyway - but makes it a little bit easier with less moving parts.
Also, as an avid user of the example page, can I help?
Thanks, I think I've got it mostly covered for the move itself, but after it I'd certainly appreciate more eyes to check and see if I didn't mess anything up :)
Also, maintaining some sort of classification order is always appreciated - putting it into proper section, or creating new ones if necessary.
Thanks,