The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge, UK next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the least amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the structure of the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in there ! And of course everything we generate for that will be available online as soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1] http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/ [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
Back in April 2013 I did a talk on wikis and Wikipedia including Wikidata, not really a tutorial. The slides are here:
http://www2.imm.dtu.dk/pubdb/views/edoc_download.php/6564/pdf/imm6564.pdf
The slides are in Danish, but perhaps you can get inspired from them? The bit of information on Wikidata starts around page 35.
I found Byrial's table https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruger:Byrial/sandkasse gives a good overview of what an item is.
/Finn
On 12/03/2015 10:31 PM, Benjamin Good wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge, UK next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the least amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the structure of the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in there ! And of course everything we generate for that will be available online as soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1] http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/ [2]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Here are my slides from last Saturday, where I presented the subject of Wikidata and lists. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jane_Darnell_WCN_2015_Wikidata_and_L...
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Finn Årup Nielsen fn@imm.dtu.dk wrote:
Back in April 2013 I did a talk on wikis and Wikipedia including Wikidata, not really a tutorial. The slides are here:
http://www2.imm.dtu.dk/pubdb/views/edoc_download.php/6564/pdf/imm6564.pdf
The slides are in Danish, but perhaps you can get inspired from them? The bit of information on Wikidata starts around page 35.
I found Byrial's table https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruger:Byrial/sandkasse gives a good overview of what an item is.
/Finn
On 12/03/2015 10:31 PM, Benjamin Good wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge, UK next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the least amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the structure of the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in there ! And of course everything we generate for that will be available online as soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1] http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/ [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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Feel free to use any content from http://www.slideshare.net/_Emw/an-ambitious-wikidata-tutorial. I used those in a 60-minute, 30-40 person workshop in October. The slides cover introductory topics (basic Wikidata vocabulary, where to finds things, etc.) as well as RDF/OWL, querying, and ontology.
Benjamin,
It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the one EMW shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical presentation rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art. < http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-art...
It is all very casual and everything understates how important and revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of people. Of all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
yours,
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge, UK next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the least amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the structure of the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in there ! And of course everything we generate for that will be available online as soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1] http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/ [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Thanks All! (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received, maybe ever..)
Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the meeting.. Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we are a bit late to implement. Fortune cookies to pass out where each fortune is a single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make.. Would love to see that play out someday.
-Ben
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com wrote:
Benjamin,
It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the one EMW shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical presentation rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art. < http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-art...
It is all very casual and everything understates how important and revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of people. Of all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
yours,
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge, UK next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the least amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the structure of the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in there ! And of course everything we generate for that will be available online as soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1] http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/ [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
-- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 lane@bluerasberry.com
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On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks All! (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received, maybe ever..)
Here are the presentations I and others on the dev team have done: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B82thJoD1UpKeTFjLUJ5SFp6OTg
Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the meeting.. Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we are a bit late to implement. Fortune cookies to pass out where each fortune is a single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make.. Would love to see that play out someday.
Haha that is awesome. I want! :D
Cheers Lydia
Charles Matthews and I ran a workshop a little while ago which had something like the fortune cookie idea.
First, we demonstrated basic Wikidata editing (adding/changing statements) as part of a discussion on the data structure - properties and items, item versus text properties, etc.
After this, we gave everyone a numbered slip with a Wikidata query (in WDQ form) on it - mostly of the type "claim[X] and noclaim[Y]". Then we got them to load up pre-filled Autolist links (all numbered and ready), pick a couple of entries from the list, and try to fix whatever was missing. (There was an unintended detour at this point into how to interpret WDQ queries - people got the idea pretty fast that these were one set of items missing particular values)
Queries we used were things like "people with no nationality" (though "people born since 1600 with no nationality" would have worked better), "people with no occupation", "buildings that don't have a 'located in' value", etc.
This got people making small edits very early, ensured that we had a fresh supply of "missing cases" to work on (because the lists were generated from scratch), and prompted a lot of very good questions for discussion, people starting to hack the queries to find more specific topics, etc. I was really quite pleased with the way it worked.
Andrew.
On 4 December 2015 at 17:38, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks All! (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received, maybe ever..)
Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the meeting.. Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we are a bit late to implement. Fortune cookies to pass out where each fortune is a single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make.. Would love to see that play out someday.
-Ben
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com wrote:
Benjamin,
It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the one EMW shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical presentation rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art.
http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-articles-about-genes/
It is all very casual and everything understates how important and revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of people. Of all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
yours,
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge, UK next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the least amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the structure of the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in there ! And of course everything we generate for that will be available online as soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1] http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/
[2]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
-- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 lane@bluerasberry.com
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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Sounds great. Very much like what we are thinking.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Charles Matthews and I ran a workshop a little while ago which had something like the fortune cookie idea.
First, we demonstrated basic Wikidata editing (adding/changing statements) as part of a discussion on the data structure - properties and items, item versus text properties, etc.
After this, we gave everyone a numbered slip with a Wikidata query (in WDQ form) on it - mostly of the type "claim[X] and noclaim[Y]". Then we got them to load up pre-filled Autolist links (all numbered and ready), pick a couple of entries from the list, and try to fix whatever was missing. (There was an unintended detour at this point into how to interpret WDQ queries - people got the idea pretty fast that these were one set of items missing particular values)
Queries we used were things like "people with no nationality" (though "people born since 1600 with no nationality" would have worked better), "people with no occupation", "buildings that don't have a 'located in' value", etc.
This got people making small edits very early, ensured that we had a fresh supply of "missing cases" to work on (because the lists were generated from scratch), and prompted a lot of very good questions for discussion, people starting to hack the queries to find more specific topics, etc. I was really quite pleased with the way it worked.
Andrew.
On 4 December 2015 at 17:38, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks All! (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received,
maybe
ever..)
Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the meeting.. Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we are a bit late to implement. Fortune cookies to pass out where each fortune
is a
single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make.. Would
love
to see that play out someday.
-Ben
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com
wrote:
Benjamin,
It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the one
EMW
shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical
presentation
rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art.
<
http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-art...
It is all very casual and everything understates how important and revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of people.
Of
all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
yours,
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good <ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com
wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge,
UK
next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the
least
amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the structure
of
the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in there
!
And of course everything we generate for that will be available online
as
soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1]
http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/
[2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
-- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 lane@bluerasberry.com
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
--
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That is a nice idea Andrew. One thing to be aware of is editing pace. I had an advanced workshop with prepared pre-filled Autolists, and when 10-15 people with new accounts on the same IP tried to add statements at the same time through Autolist there was some mechanism that kicked in (to protect Wikidata). I understand the reason for the feature and do not suggest changing it, people designing workshops just need to be aware that this feature exist.
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2015-12-04 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk:
Charles Matthews and I ran a workshop a little while ago which had something like the fortune cookie idea.
First, we demonstrated basic Wikidata editing (adding/changing statements) as part of a discussion on the data structure - properties and items, item versus text properties, etc.
After this, we gave everyone a numbered slip with a Wikidata query (in WDQ form) on it - mostly of the type "claim[X] and noclaim[Y]". Then we got them to load up pre-filled Autolist links (all numbered and ready), pick a couple of entries from the list, and try to fix whatever was missing. (There was an unintended detour at this point into how to interpret WDQ queries - people got the idea pretty fast that these were one set of items missing particular values)
Queries we used were things like "people with no nationality" (though "people born since 1600 with no nationality" would have worked better), "people with no occupation", "buildings that don't have a 'located in' value", etc.
This got people making small edits very early, ensured that we had a fresh supply of "missing cases" to work on (because the lists were generated from scratch), and prompted a lot of very good questions for discussion, people starting to hack the queries to find more specific topics, etc. I was really quite pleased with the way it worked.
Andrew.
On 4 December 2015 at 17:38, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks All! (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received,
maybe
ever..)
Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the meeting.. Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we are a bit late to implement. Fortune cookies to pass out where each fortune
is a
single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make.. Would
love
to see that play out someday.
-Ben
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com
wrote:
Benjamin,
It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the one
EMW
shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical
presentation
rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art.
<
http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-art...
It is all very casual and everything understates how important and revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of people.
Of
all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
yours,
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good <ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com
wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge,
UK
next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the
least
amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the structure
of
the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in there
!
And of course everything we generate for that will be available online
as
soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1]
http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/
[2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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--
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Yes, we carefully used Autolist1 so that they couldn't easily make bulk edits, to avoid this :-). It was solely a discovery tool rather than an editing one.
However, in the workshop, one person did figure out how to, and did a batch of fifty on their own initiative!
A.
On 4 December 2015 at 18:18, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
That is a nice idea Andrew. One thing to be aware of is editing pace. I had an advanced workshop with prepared pre-filled Autolists, and when 10-15 people with new accounts on the same IP tried to add statements at the same time through Autolist there was some mechanism that kicked in (to protect Wikidata). I understand the reason for the feature and do not suggest changing it, people designing workshops just need to be aware that this feature exist.
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2015-12-04 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk:
Charles Matthews and I ran a workshop a little while ago which had something like the fortune cookie idea.
First, we demonstrated basic Wikidata editing (adding/changing statements) as part of a discussion on the data structure - properties and items, item versus text properties, etc.
After this, we gave everyone a numbered slip with a Wikidata query (in WDQ form) on it - mostly of the type "claim[X] and noclaim[Y]". Then we got them to load up pre-filled Autolist links (all numbered and ready), pick a couple of entries from the list, and try to fix whatever was missing. (There was an unintended detour at this point into how to interpret WDQ queries - people got the idea pretty fast that these were one set of items missing particular values)
Queries we used were things like "people with no nationality" (though "people born since 1600 with no nationality" would have worked better), "people with no occupation", "buildings that don't have a 'located in' value", etc.
This got people making small edits very early, ensured that we had a fresh supply of "missing cases" to work on (because the lists were generated from scratch), and prompted a lot of very good questions for discussion, people starting to hack the queries to find more specific topics, etc. I was really quite pleased with the way it worked.
Andrew.
On 4 December 2015 at 17:38, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks All! (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received,
maybe
ever..)
Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the meeting.. Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we are
a
bit late to implement. Fortune cookies to pass out where each fortune
is a
single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make.. Would
love
to see that play out someday.
-Ben
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com
wrote:
Benjamin,
It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the one
EMW
shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical
presentation
rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art.
<
http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-art...
It is all very casual and everything understates how important and revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of
people. Of
all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
yours,
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good <
ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com>
wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge,
UK
next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the
least
amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the
structure of
the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in
there !
And of course everything we generate for that will be available
online as
soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1]
http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/
[2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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Mine was on purpose Autolist2 to make bulk edits :)
Short documentation here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Workshop_at_SMHI
I also remember now that I had prepared a list of Swedes that did not have P21 (gender), to serve as a first simple edit for each participant. I made them first sign up on the numbered list so they each got a number, then pasted in the prepared list of persons and asked them to add the statement on the item corresponding to their number in the participants list.
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2015-12-04 19:22 GMT+01:00 Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk:
Yes, we carefully used Autolist1 so that they couldn't easily make bulk edits, to avoid this :-). It was solely a discovery tool rather than an editing one.
However, in the workshop, one person did figure out how to, and did a batch of fifty on their own initiative!
A.
On 4 December 2015 at 18:18, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
That is a nice idea Andrew. One thing to be aware of is editing pace. I had an advanced workshop with prepared pre-filled Autolists, and when 10-15 people with new accounts on the same IP tried to add statements at the same time through Autolist there was some mechanism that kicked in (to protect Wikidata). I understand the reason for the feature and do not suggest changing it, people designing workshops just need to be aware that this feature exist.
*Med vänliga hälsningar,Jan Ainali*
Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se 0729 - 67 29 48
*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2015-12-04 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk:
Charles Matthews and I ran a workshop a little while ago which had something like the fortune cookie idea.
First, we demonstrated basic Wikidata editing (adding/changing statements) as part of a discussion on the data structure - properties and items, item versus text properties, etc.
After this, we gave everyone a numbered slip with a Wikidata query (in WDQ form) on it - mostly of the type "claim[X] and noclaim[Y]". Then we got them to load up pre-filled Autolist links (all numbered and ready), pick a couple of entries from the list, and try to fix whatever was missing. (There was an unintended detour at this point into how to interpret WDQ queries - people got the idea pretty fast that these were one set of items missing particular values)
Queries we used were things like "people with no nationality" (though "people born since 1600 with no nationality" would have worked better), "people with no occupation", "buildings that don't have a 'located in' value", etc.
This got people making small edits very early, ensured that we had a fresh supply of "missing cases" to work on (because the lists were generated from scratch), and prompted a lot of very good questions for discussion, people starting to hack the queries to find more specific topics, etc. I was really quite pleased with the way it worked.
Andrew.
On 4 December 2015 at 17:38, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks All! (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received,
maybe
ever..)
Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the meeting.. Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we
are a
bit late to implement. Fortune cookies to pass out where each fortune
is a
single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make.. Would
love
to see that play out someday.
-Ben
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com
wrote:
Benjamin,
It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the one
EMW
shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical
presentation
rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art.
<
http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-art...
It is all very casual and everything understates how important and revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of
people. Of
all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
yours,
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good <
ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com>
wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in
Cambridge, UK
next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the
least
amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list
had
content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the
structure of
the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in
there !
And of course everything we generate for that will be available
online as
soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1]
http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/
[2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
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Hi everyone, the tutorial was well received though will be much better next time around.. Thanks for your feedback. It is discussed with links to the three sub-presentations that formed the standing and talking part of it here: http://tinyurl.com/swat4ls-wikidata
Thanks again. Its pretty clear the community here needs to evolve a really killer hands-on wikidata tutorial. Not quite there yet, but good progress! We will have to do this again for life scientists in March 2016..
cheers! -Ben
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
Mine was on purpose Autolist2 to make bulk edits :)
Short documentation here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Workshop_at_SMHI
I also remember now that I had prepared a list of Swedes that did not have P21 (gender), to serve as a first simple edit for each participant. I made them first sign up on the numbered list so they each got a number, then pasted in the prepared list of persons and asked them to add the statement on the item corresponding to their number in the participants list.
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2015-12-04 19:22 GMT+01:00 Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk:
Yes, we carefully used Autolist1 so that they couldn't easily make bulk edits, to avoid this :-). It was solely a discovery tool rather than an editing one.
However, in the workshop, one person did figure out how to, and did a batch of fifty on their own initiative!
A.
On 4 December 2015 at 18:18, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
That is a nice idea Andrew. One thing to be aware of is editing pace. I had an advanced workshop with prepared pre-filled Autolists, and when 10-15 people with new accounts on the same IP tried to add statements at the same time through Autolist there was some mechanism that kicked in (to protect Wikidata). I understand the reason for the feature and do not suggest changing it, people designing workshops just need to be aware that this feature exist.
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*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa har fri tillgång till mänsklighetens samlade kunskap. Det är det vi gör.* Bli medlem. http://blimedlem.wikimedia.se
2015-12-04 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk:
Charles Matthews and I ran a workshop a little while ago which had something like the fortune cookie idea.
First, we demonstrated basic Wikidata editing (adding/changing statements) as part of a discussion on the data structure - properties and items, item versus text properties, etc.
After this, we gave everyone a numbered slip with a Wikidata query (in WDQ form) on it - mostly of the type "claim[X] and noclaim[Y]". Then we got them to load up pre-filled Autolist links (all numbered and ready), pick a couple of entries from the list, and try to fix whatever was missing. (There was an unintended detour at this point into how to interpret WDQ queries - people got the idea pretty fast that these were one set of items missing particular values)
Queries we used were things like "people with no nationality" (though "people born since 1600 with no nationality" would have worked better), "people with no occupation", "buildings that don't have a 'located in' value", etc.
This got people making small edits very early, ensured that we had a fresh supply of "missing cases" to work on (because the lists were generated from scratch), and prompted a lot of very good questions for discussion, people starting to hack the queries to find more specific topics, etc. I was really quite pleased with the way it worked.
Andrew.
On 4 December 2015 at 17:38, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks All! (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received,
maybe
ever..)
Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the meeting.. Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we
are a
bit late to implement. Fortune cookies to pass out where each
fortune is a
single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make..
Would love
to see that play out someday.
-Ben
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com
wrote:
Benjamin,
It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the
one EMW
shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical
presentation
rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art.
<
http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-art...
It is all very casual and everything understates how important and revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of
people. Of
all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
yours,
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good <
ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com>
wrote: > > The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in
Cambridge, UK
> next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in
the least
> amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list
had
> content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used > successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the
structure of
> the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in
there !
> And of course everything we generate for that will be available
online as
> soon as it exists. > > cheers > -Ben > > [1]
http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/
> > [2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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On 4 December 2015 at 18:07, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Queries we used were things like "people with no nationality" (though "people born since 1600 with no nationality" would have worked better), "people with no occupation", "buildings that don't have a 'located in' value", etc.
Aha - here's the ones we used., the first 1-12 listed here:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Charles_Matthews/Workshop_queries
Some weren't so useful - eg #12 fell down because a lot had "start" and "end" rather than "point". #2 and #3 were clogged with classical figures it was hard to deal with - a year filter on this would be good. And #4 and #5 both had a significant number of "actually, no image/category available", which didn't really suit the "make an edit easily" dynamic.
But some of the others were pretty good.