Heya :) Third time's a charm, right? We're live on the English Wikipedia with phase 1 now \o/ Details are in this blog post: http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/**02/13/wikidata-live-on-the-** english-wikipedia<http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/02/13/wikidata-live-on-the-english-wikipedia> An FAQ is being worked on at http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikidata/Deployment_**Questions<http://… Thanks everyone who helped!

On 13/02/2013 21:31, Denny Vrandečić wrote: Just once so far - <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**index.php?title=Papal_** conclave,_2013&diff=prev&**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedia.… -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ______________________________**_________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.…

We really ought to change it to dynamic: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase (thanks duh) If there is no error, wikibase is present, disable. This way no update to the blacklist is needed. The query should be re-issued every 30 min to make sure it hasn't changed. The sad part is that interwiki bot needs to be significantly reworked, so there is no big incentive to do any changes like this to it. It should be aware of wikidata, remove all data unless it is not in wikidata, etc. Lots of heuristical changes. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Amir Ladsgroup &lt;ladsgroup(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

I guess it only makes sense if the deployment will be few languages at a time. If at some point you will start switching them in bulk, it might

sense not to do it.

When?

That's a very interesting idea when i check this: http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase we can make a call for a bot to check every wiki but for now i think

is a very few wikis updated on wikidata so I don't think it's very good

right now but for the future it's the only option so I'll work on it but

now Best On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Yuri Astrakhan &lt;yuriastrakhan(a)gmail.com wrote: > > We really ought to change it to dynamic: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase > (thanks duh) > > If there is no error, wikibase is present, disable. This way no update

> the blacklist is needed. The query should be re-issued every 30 min to

> sure it hasn't changed. > > The sad part is that interwiki bot needs to be significantly reworked,

> there is no big incentive to do any changes like this to it. It should

> aware of wikidata, remove all data unless it is not in wikidata, etc.

> of heuristical changes. > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Amir Ladsgroup &lt;ladsgroup(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: >> >> I did this: >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/11073 >> so updated bots are not a concern anymore :) >> BTW:congrats. >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Katie Chan &lt;ktc(a)ktchan.info&gt; wrote: >>> >>> On 13/02/2013 21:31, Denny Vrandečić wrote: >>>> >>>> You have examples of that? Did not happen to my edits (so far). >>> >>> >>> Just once so far - >>> <

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That's a very interesting idea when i check this: http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.**php?action=query&meta=wikibase<http:… <http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=**wikibase<http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase> we can make a call for a bot to check every wiki but for now i think there is a very few wikis updated on wikidata so I don't think it's very good idea right now but for the future it's the only option so I'll work on it but not now Best On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Yuri Astrakhan &lt;yuriastrakhan(a)gmail.com <mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.**com &lt;yuriastrakhan(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: We really ought to change it to dynamic: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=**wikibase<ht… <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=**wikibase<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase> (thanks duh) If there is no error, wikibase is present, disable. This way no update to the blacklist is needed. The query should be re-issued every 30 min to make sure it hasn't changed. The sad part is that interwiki bot needs to be significantly reworked, so there is no big incentive to do any changes like this to it. It should be aware of wikidata, remove all data unless it is not in wikidata, etc. Lots of heuristical changes. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Amir Ladsgroup &lt;ladsgroup(a)gmail.com <mailto:ladsgroup@gmail.com>> wrote: I did this: https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/**11073<https:… so updated bots are not a concern anymore :) BTW:congrats. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Katie Chan &lt;ktc(a)ktchan.info <mailto:ktc@ktchan.info>> wrote: On 13/02/2013 21:31, Denny Vrandečić wrote: You have examples of that? Did not happen to my edits (so far). Just once so far - <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**index.php?title=Papal___** conclave,_2013&diff=prev&__**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedi… <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**index.php?title=Papal_** conclave,_2013&diff=prev&**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedia.… -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ______________________________**___________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://list… <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> -- Amir ______________________________**_________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.… ______________________________**_________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.** wikimedia.org &lt;Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;&gt; https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.… -- Amir ______________________________**_________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.…

We really ought to communicate with the bot owners to significantly modify their bots. It might even make sense to stop them all together until they can be re-designed to take wikidata into account. I could post a comment on most boards to ask IW bots to stop (and to notify the local communities that they should monitor IW bots changes and halt them). On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Marco Fleckinger &lt;marco.fleckinger(a)wikipedia.at <mailto:marco.fleckinger@**wikipedia.at<marco.fleckinger@wikipedia.at> wrote: Actually when wikidata is running on all wikis we only have to remove the iw-links inside all articles of the same wikidata item. The bots will not have any base for adding the links again and wont do it anymore. Cheers Marco On 02/14/2013 11:29 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: That's a very interesting idea when i check this: http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.**__php?action=query&meta=** wikibase <http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.__php?action=query&meta=wikibase> <http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=**wikibase<http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase> <http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/__**api.php?action=query&meta=__** wikibase<http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/__api.php?action=query&meta=__wik… http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=**wikibase<htt… we can make a call for a bot to check every wiki but for now i think there is a very few wikis updated on wikidata so I don't think it's very good idea right now but for the future it's the only option so I'll work on it but not now Best On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Yuri Astrakhan &lt;yuriastrakhan(a)gmail.com <mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.**com<yuriastrakhan@gmail.com> <mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.__**com <mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.**com &lt;yuriastrakhan(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: We really ought to change it to dynamic: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**api.php?action=query&meta=__** wikibase<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__api.php?action=query&meta=__wi… https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=**wikibase<ht… <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**api.php?action=query&meta=__** wikibase<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__api.php?action=query&meta=__wi… <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=** wikibase <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase> (thanks duh) If there is no error, wikibase is present, disable. This way no update to the blacklist is needed. The query should be re-issued every 30 min to make sure it hasn't changed. The sad part is that interwiki bot needs to be significantly reworked, so there is no big incentive to do any changes like this to it. It should be aware of wikidata, remove all data unless it is not in wikidata, etc. Lots of heuristical changes. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Amir Ladsgroup &lt;ladsgroup(a)gmail.com <mailto:ladsgroup@gmail.com> <mailto:ladsgroup@gmail.com <mailto:ladsgroup@gmail.com>>> wrote: I did this: https://www.mediawiki.org/__**wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/** __11073<https://www.mediawiki.org/__wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/__1107… https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/**11073<https:… so updated bots are not a concern anymore :) BTW:congrats. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Katie Chan &lt;ktc(a)ktchan.info <mailto:ktc@ktchan.info> <mailto:ktc@ktchan.info <mailto:ktc@ktchan.info>>> wrote: On 13/02/2013 21:31, Denny Vrandečić wrote: You have examples of that? Did not happen to my edits (so far). Just once so far - <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**__index.php?title=Papal_____** conclave,_2013&diff=prev&____**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipe… <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**index.php?title=Papal___** conclave,_2013&diff=prev&__**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedi… <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**index.php?title=Papal___** conclave,_2013&diff=prev&__**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedi… <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**index.php?title=Papal_** conclave,_2013&diff=prev&**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedia.… -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine ______________________________** _____________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.__wik**imedia.org <http://wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://li… <https://lists.wikimedia.org/_**_mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/_**_mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> -- Amir ______________________________**___________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.__wik**imedia.org <http://wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://list… <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> ______________________________**___________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.__wik**imedia.org <http://wikimedia.org> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://list… <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> -- Amir ______________________________**___________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://list… <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> ______________________________**___________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.** wikimedia.org &lt;Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;&gt; https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://list… <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> ______________________________**_________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.…