Hi,
I would like to know your opinion about having the value in the #property parser function. Right now we have two options:
{{#property:P36}} {{#property:capital}}
The problem with this model is that editors in wikipedia cannot see the value unless they render the page (or possibly use the VisualEditor). Having the value in the property parser itself would allow contributors to see and edit the value in Wikipedia, which would in turn update the Wikidata value. Of course updating the value in Wikidata will also update the text field. It could look like
{{#property:P36|value=Berlin}} {{#property:capital|value=Berlin}}
Or maybe:
{{#property:P36=Berlin}} {{#property:capital=Berlin}}
What is your opinion about it?
Cheers, Micru
Il 20/10/2013 20:30, David Cuenca ha scritto:
Hi,
I would like to know your opinion about having the value in the #property parser function. Right now we have two options: {{#property:P36}} {{#property:capital}}
The problem with this model is that editors in wikipedia cannot see the value unless they render the page (or possibly use the VisualEditor). Having the value in the property parser itself would allow contributors to see and edit the value in Wikipedia, which would in turn update the Wikidata value. Of course updating the value in Wikidata will also update the text field. It could look like {{#property:P36|value=Berlin}} {{#property:capital|value=Berlin}} Or maybe: {{#property:P36=Berlin}} {{#property:capital=Berlin}}
What is your opinion about it?
Cheers, Micru
Then what will be data's scope? :/
Vito
Excuse me in advance, as this isn't an area I am well versed in, but:
{{#property:P36}} doesn't have to change if the value changes, but an edit would have to be made to modify {{#property:P36|value=Berlin}} if the value changed. Now capitals don't change, but if we have a value for Alexa rank or annual GDP or population, well those change often. Part of the utility of Wikidata is that on smaller projects once you set everything up you don't need a continuous stream of edits.
Sven On Oct 20, 2013 3:06 PM, "Vito" vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Il 20/10/2013 20:30, David Cuenca ha scritto:
Hi,
I would like to know your opinion about having the value in the #property parser function. Right now we have two options: {{#property:P36}} {{#property:capital}}
The problem with this model is that editors in wikipedia cannot see the value unless they render the page (or possibly use the VisualEditor). Having the value in the property parser itself would allow contributors to see and edit the value in Wikipedia, which would in turn update the Wikidata value. Of course updating the value in Wikidata will also update the text field. It could look like {{#property:P36|value=Berlin}} {{#property:capital|value=**Berlin}} Or maybe: {{#property:P36=Berlin}} {{#property:capital=Berlin}}
What is your opinion about it?
Cheers, Micru
Then what will be data's scope? :/
Vito
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@Sven: AFAIK, whenever there is a change in the data, the change is shown as an edit, that way editors can keep an eye on the changes, even if there is a continuous stream of edits. In that regard there would stay as it is now.
@Vito: what do you mean by "data's scope"?
Micru
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Sven Manguard svenmanguard@gmail.comwrote:
Excuse me in advance, as this isn't an area I am well versed in, but:
{{#property:P36}} doesn't have to change if the value changes, but an edit would have to be made to modify {{#property:P36|value=Berlin}} if the value changed. Now capitals don't change, but if we have a value for Alexa rank or annual GDP or population, well those change often. Part of the utility of Wikidata is that on smaller projects once you set everything up you don't need a continuous stream of edits.
Sven On Oct 20, 2013 3:06 PM, "Vito" vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Il 20/10/2013 20:30, David Cuenca ha scritto:
Hi,
I would like to know your opinion about having the value in the #property parser function. Right now we have two options: {{#property:P36}} {{#property:capital}}
The problem with this model is that editors in wikipedia cannot see the value unless they render the page (or possibly use the VisualEditor). Having the value in the property parser itself would allow contributors to see and edit the value in Wikipedia, which would in turn update the Wikidata value. Of course updating the value in Wikidata will also update the text field. It could look like {{#property:P36|value=Berlin}} {{#property:capital|value=**Berlin}} Or maybe: {{#property:P36=Berlin}} {{#property:capital=Berlin}}
What is your opinion about it?
Cheers, Micru
Then what will be data's scope? :/
Vito
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Hoi, Historically you will find that capitals of countries change.. It happened several times during my life time :) Yeah yeah... Thanks, GerardM
On 20 October 2013 21:17, Sven Manguard svenmanguard@gmail.com wrote:
Excuse me in advance, as this isn't an area I am well versed in, but:
{{#property:P36}} doesn't have to change if the value changes, but an edit would have to be made to modify {{#property:P36|value=Berlin}} if the value changed. Now capitals don't change, but if we have a value for Alexa rank or annual GDP or population, well those change often. Part of the utility of Wikidata is that on smaller projects once you set everything up you don't need a continuous stream of edits.
Sven On Oct 20, 2013 3:06 PM, "Vito" vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Il 20/10/2013 20:30, David Cuenca ha scritto:
Hi,
I would like to know your opinion about having the value in the #property parser function. Right now we have two options: {{#property:P36}} {{#property:capital}}
The problem with this model is that editors in wikipedia cannot see the value unless they render the page (or possibly use the VisualEditor). Having the value in the property parser itself would allow contributors to see and edit the value in Wikipedia, which would in turn update the Wikidata value. Of course updating the value in Wikidata will also update the text field. It could look like {{#property:P36|value=Berlin}} {{#property:capital|value=**Berlin}} Or maybe: {{#property:P36=Berlin}} {{#property:capital=Berlin}}
What is your opinion about it?
Cheers, Micru
Then what will be data's scope? :/
Vito
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