On 4 May 2014 13:17, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinzler@wikimedia.de wrote:
Am 04.05.2014 09:00, schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Joe Filceolaire filceolaire@gmail.com
wrote:
Where are we with fallback languages?
The status is that we have a plan for the next steps. I realize it is important but currently not doable in the next say 3 months.
I would like to add some information about why language fallback is not as easily done as it may seem. Fallback for *display* is simple enough (as reasonator proves) - but we allow editing, which makes this much harder.
Consider the case of a user with their language set to "en-gb", but seeing a label in "en" due to fallback. What should happen if they click "edit"? Which label will they be editing, the "en" one or the "en-gb" one? They should really be able to do both, and the consequences of their edit should be obvious to them. When automatic transliteration comes into play, as is the case with some chinese variants, things become more complex still.
This is not impossible to solve (e.g. by showing edit boxes for all the relevant variants, with some additional information), but needs careful design. This cannot be done overnight.
BTW, this is a shared design need in VisualEditor for language variant support (we should show one item/term because that's what users expect from read mode, but then how do we show when the user is editing that term which changes they've made have applied automatically to other variants and which didn't, and why).
J.