On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 10 March 2014 07:41, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de wrote:
I agree with what Gerard wrote.
Then please see my response to him.
We should be moving away from a world where information is entered on Wikipedia and then in addition on Wikidata. We need to move to a world where information is added in Wikidata and then used on Wikipedia.
I'd love to know how you think that will happen, in a timely manner, for the kinds of people who use AfC,
Where do you see the biggest obstacles right now in the process? Maybe we can identify those and then see if we can find solutions for them? I'm not saying what you're seeing isn't a problem we need to fix. I just think we need to solve it in a better way. Let's find it.
Otherwise the whole idea ofther t Wikidata is kinda moot. It will not happen tomorrow and need more work but this is where we should be going and I'd rather we didn't take steps that drag this process out even longer.
Meanwhile, articles are being created, daily, via AfC with no Wikidata equivalent, or where someone has to create the equivalent manually, cutting-and-pasting or retyping text, rather than having tools do the work for them. That's crazy.
Sure. That is clearly not a great situation and we should see if we can improve it. What I'm saying is that we should not improve it by making people enter even more information in Wikipedia and then copy it over to Wikipedia while our long-term goal is exactly the opposite. Because this will only bite us down the road. Let's identify the specific issues and see if we can find other solutions for them.
Cheers Lydia