Hi Nadja,
Of course, thanks for the pointer. Yes, I'd agree that 19788's ontology be closely reviewed for inclusion. 19788:2 standardizes the Dublin Core properties, the same I recommend for [[wikidata]] provenance data, the same slated for the [[wikidata]] ontology. But more to your point is that the entire ISO corpus would fit really well if it were viewed as a topic map whose topics and sub-topics can be referenced from [[wikidata]] artifacts such as property definitions.
To me, [[wikidata]] is an opportunity to bring technical communities togethr, not so much an opportunity to create a new one. Your note is a great example of this.
Thanks - john
On 13.06.2012 13:22, Nadja Kutz wrote:
John McClure wrote: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_Map
[1]s gives links to iso/iec 13250"
??? There seems to be a
misunderstanding. I was having rather the meta descriptions of general ISO items in mind, not the description of a topic map per se. (and apart from that I thought wikidata wanted to use RDF ? )
The ISO site is
rather cryptic and most of it is not accessible (see e.g. http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/open/jtc1sc36 [2]) however I understood sentences (see http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum... [3]) like:
"ISO/IEC 19788-1:2011 provides principles, rules and
structures for the specification of the description of a learning resource; it identifies and specifies the attributes of a data element as well as the rules governing their use. The key principles stated in ISO/IEC 19788-1:2011 are informed by a user requirements-driven context with the aim of supporting multilingual and cultural adaptability requirements from a global perspective.
ISO/IEC 19788-1:2011 is
information-technology-neutral and defines a set of common approaches, i.e. methodologies and constructs, which apply to the development of the subsequent parts of ISO/IEC 19788."
as that the ISO is in the process
of turning parts of their database into a machine-readable standard format. So I assumed that
the "identification of a data element" for
learning ressources could be sort of planned to be extendend to all of (or already have?) their standards, which reaches from screw threads
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum... [4]
over mathematical symbols
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum... [5]
to copper alloys
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?co... [6]
If that would be the case then companies etc. could link and
conform to standards (here for example an unlinked reference
to a DIN
standard for
product for insulation: http://isofloc.de/index.php?technische-daten [8])
That is especially companies could be interested in promoting
parts of their technical data in a ISO standartized format (which makes the comparision of technical data of products easier)
so for example
crawlers could collect products which set out certain technical specifications. Organizations could
link easier to companies which
conform e.g. to social standards etc.
So when I wrote that Wikidata
could eventually base their data on the ISO standards then I meant that it
would make sense to have a structural correspondence between
ISO standards and definitions (or e.g. standards from the DIN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Institut_f%C3%BCr_Normung [9] or other similar organizations) and the wikidata ontology, because wikidata would for materials etc. anyways have an entry for the corresponding standards.
Friedrich Roehrs wrote:"1c. You're arguing over CHF 200 --
which extraordinarily-cheaply and
fundamentally PROTECTS the MWF
from copyright infringement suits? Can
the SNAK architecture provide
that reassurance to the MWF community?"
I don't know what you mean
by that. As you can see in the ISO links:
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum... [10]
each item alone costs something in that range.
Links: ------ [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_Map [2] http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/open/jtc1sc36 [3] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum... [4] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum... [5] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum... [6] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?co... [7] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rmeleitzahl [8] http://isofloc.de/index.php?technische-daten [9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Institut_f%C3%BCr_Normung [10] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum...