Hi Nadja,
Of course, thanks for the pointer. Yes, I'd agree that
19788's ontology be closely reviewed for inclusion. 19788:2 standardizes
the Dublin Core properties, the same I recommend for [[wikidata]]
provenance data, the same slated for the [[wikidata]] ontology. But more
to your point is that the entire ISO corpus would fit really well if it
were viewed as a topic map whose topics and sub-topics can be referenced
from [[wikidata]] artifacts such as property definitions.
To me,
[[wikidata]] is an opportunity to bring technical communities togethr,
not so much an opportunity to create a new one. Your note is a great
example of this.
Thanks - john
On 13.06.2012 13:22, Nadja Kutz
wrote:
John McClure wrote:
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_Map
[1]s gives links to iso/iec 13250"
???
There seems to be a
misunderstanding. I was having rather the meta descriptions of
general
ISO items in mind, not the description of a topic map per se. (and apart
from that I thought wikidata wanted to use RDF ? )
The ISO site is
rather cryptic and most of it is
not accessible (see e.g.
http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/open/jtc1sc36 [2]) however I
understood sentences (see
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnu…
[3]) like:
"ISO/IEC 19788-1:2011 provides principles, rules and
structures for the
specification of the description of a learning
resource; it identifies and specifies the attributes of a data element
as well as the rules governing their use. The key principles stated in
ISO/IEC 19788-1:2011 are informed by a user requirements-driven context
with the aim of supporting multilingual and cultural adaptability
requirements from a global perspective.
ISO/IEC 19788-1:2011 is
information-technology-neutral and defines a set of common
approaches,
i.e. methodologies and constructs, which apply to the development of the
subsequent parts of ISO/IEC 19788."
as that the ISO is in the process
of turning
parts of their database into a machine-readable standard
format. So I assumed that
the "identification of a data element" for
learning ressources could be sort of planned to be extendend to all of
(or already have?) their standards, which reaches from screw threads
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnu…
[4]
> over mathematical symbols
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnu…
[5]
> to copper alloys
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?c…
[6]
If that would be the case then companies etc. could
link and
conform to standards (here for example an unlinked reference
to a DIN
standard for
product for insulation:
http://isofloc.de/index.php?technische-daten
[8])
That is especially companies could be interested in promoting
parts of their
technical data in a ISO standartized format (which makes
the comparision of technical data of products easier)
so for example
crawlers could collect products
which set out certain technical
specifications. Organizations could
link easier to companies which
conform e.g. to
social standards etc.
So when I wrote that Wikidata
could eventually
base their data on the ISO standards then I meant that
it
would make sense to have a structural correspondence
between
ISO standards and definitions (or e.g. standards from the DIN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Institut_f%C3%BCr_Normung [9] or
other similar organizations) and the wikidata ontology, because wikidata
would for materials etc. anyways have an entry for the corresponding
standards.
Friedrich Roehrs wrote:"1c. You're arguing
over CHF 200 --
which extraordinarily-cheaply and
fundamentally PROTECTS the MWF
from copyright infringement suits? Can
the SNAK architecture provide
that reassurance
to the MWF community?"
I don't know what you mean
by that. As you can see in the ISO links:
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnu…
[10]
each item alone costs something in that range.
Links:
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[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_Map
[2]
http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/open/jtc1sc36
[3]
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnu…
[4]
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnu…
[5]
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnu…
[6]
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?c…
[7]
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wärmeleitzahl
[8]
http://isofloc.de/index.php?technische-daten
[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Institut_f%C3%BCr_Normung
[10]
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnu…